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Tire & wheel advice

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Does anybody have an idiots guide to ATV tires and wheels? I fancy a new set of Diblo headlocks, but I don't understand the whole offset thing! Anybody care to explain?

I was also considering a set of pit bull growlers? I mainly go on trails, some are groomed and some are very much just little more than walking tracks.

Every time I have gone out with my stock tires I've had a puncture so I was considering getting a 6ply tire to try and reduce the puncture frequency!!

I have an outty 800 (2008) and steering is heavy enough I don't want to make it any heavier!

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Locking Fuel Cap;
Mud Guard Extensions;
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New Winch Wire;
DWT Diablo Rims (12" {4+3]);
25.5" Growlers XOD (5psi);
1075 miles;
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Hey Robin.. needing new ones myself and have read what seems like hundreds of respected reviews and have visited/spoken to a lot of owners as well as looked at them personally. Sounds like your riding style similar to mine. Other than some groomed areas and snow, I have no intent to hit logs or put it sideways through soup holes. I firmly believe at this point either the pitbull growler (6 or 8 ply depending on sixe) or the gbc grim reaper ( 8ply) would be a perfect fit and plenty tough (IMO). Both radials great ride and plenty of bite for even the unintended rough terrain or moderate mud. Steering - I would stay with either an 8" or 9" if thats a concern. Offset - very simple.. the distance from the mounting surface to the back edge of rim and the distance from mounting surface to the front edge of rim. The 2 numbers equal the total width of rim. Example a 7 inch rim could haver an offest of 4-3. In essance it simply moves the wheel/tire in and out making the wheel base wider or narrow to clear things or change wheelbase preference. I am fairly new to atv'S but certainly not to motor sports. Hope this helps
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oh ya.. forgot to mention that the first number of the 2 is the inside one :-)
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Cheers, for that. I'm fairly taken with the Diablo's and the 6ply growlers. I'm a wee bit concerned that the heavy ply will make it difficult to steer and / or make the handling a bit too stiff.........

I'll size up the wheels now. What sizes were you looking at? I was considering 25.5 as I don't really want to put too much strain on the bike, yeah I know it's an 800 but these wheels will be heavier!

PS do you know what internal coatings you can get for the tires to help seal puncture (apart from green slime that is).

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Locking Fuel Cap;
Mud Guard Extensions;
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New Winch Wire;
DWT Diablo Rims (12" {4+3]);
25.5" Growlers XOD (5psi);
1075 miles;
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Sorry stupid question time I guess.....

Whats the offset on teh std wheels on an 2008 XT?

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25.5" Growlers XOD (5psi);
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You would have to measure yours but a quick measurement of mine "appears" to be a 7" wheel with a 5-2 offset on the front (25x8x12 tires) .. and the rears "appears" to be an 8" wheel with a 6-2 offset (25x11x12 tires). The rear could be a 1/2 inch wider wheel but could get an exact measurement with wheel on bike. These are the factory "XT" steel wheel package, not the optional aluminum wheels.
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Ok, thanks (I think)........still not entirely clear on how to comfrotably spec a new set of tires and or wheels for my quad without having a potential tie-rod pinching moment!

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Radiator Protector;
Locking Fuel Cap;
Mud Guard Extensions;
Ricochet Skid Plates;
New Winch Wire;
DWT Diablo Rims (12" {4+3]);
25.5" Growlers XOD (5psi);
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I'm confused - do u have the diablos already or no?

If u get a 4x3 offset you should be fine. And the diablos fit with my growlers no problem. Plenty of room! I had the dirt commanders on the stock wheels and I had to space the fronts out a quarter inch. They were touching the tierods.

The 4-3 offset will also make your wheels stick out a little further, no more than a inch. Probably less. If I were to advise you I'd say get a 4-3 offset by 7 wheel. Front and back and they will fit almost all the tire sizes out. Take a look at the Diablo beadlock with growlers on the way thread. You might have a good read.

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Andy.. I'm with Outty. 4-3 offset to be sure. You might gain a couple inches in your wheel base width but better than a bad date with a tie rod. Personally the slight add of width is not an issue and probably a good thing.. but each their own. Also it might seem a little pre-historic (and possibly embarrassing if friends see you doing it) but I actually took a few pieces of paper and cut some ruler size strips that were the the lendth of the tire or wheel width, marked the center point of the width and actually laid them beside the strip that represented the wheel/offset. they were marked in 1/2 inch segments and by using 1 piece for every wheel/tire option you were considering it gave a real good "visual" of clearance or positioning. Like I said.. a little prehistoric and being relatively mechanical somewhat embarassing but works when your brain gets tired :-)
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I have a nice diagram of wheel offsets here if you want it for reference.
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