Official 2012 Outlander Issue List.

atvmodster · #51 01-17-2012, 06:56 PM

For 2012 on the GEN 2s yes the 800 does.. And yes a larger radiator with more fresh air flowing through it is going to help with over heating.

WiNdGaDe800 · #52 01-17-2012, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

For 2012 on the GEN 2s yes the 800 does.. And yes a larger radiator with more fresh air flowing through it is going to help with over heating.

Define over heating, The ECU dictates when to throw the limp home mode light, my bet is they did 3 things on a G2...

Lowered fan turn on temp a few degrees
Larger Radiator
Higher temp limp home mode

All these mask the problem they don't fix the problem.

The Rad is the ONLY thing needed in this case (factory fix), but without a way to turn on the fan at a lower temp then it really doesn't help your temp swings..

Get a fan controller, not because you don't see an overheating limp home mode, but for the life of your engine... Do you understand how temperature effects how metals contract and expand?

I'm not picking on this one thing, hell this is one thing I see they did better on the G2's than the G1's but atleast on G1's they let you know there is a problem to fix, now with the G2's they mask any issues and you have a false sense of security.

The 800R G1's have an oil cooler.... you just don't know it...

atvmodster · #53 01-17-2012, 07:12 PM

I have owned two 800s. A 2006 800ho and a 2010 gade xxc 800r. No oil coolers...
A larger rad with a larger more powerful fan and the oil cooler all keep the temperture down and from hitting limp mode. Can am did exactly what they needed to do to help with keeping the temperture down on the engine. The 800r's i found hit limp mode easier because they run leaner then the 800 ho's.

WiNdGaDe800 · #54 01-17-2012, 07:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

I have owned two 800s. A 2006 800ho and a 2010 gade xxc 800r. No oil coolers...
A larger rad with a larger more powerful fan and the oil cooler all keep the temperture down and from hitting limp mode. Can am did exactly what they needed to do to help with keeping the temperture down on the engine. The 800r's i found hit limp mode easier because they run leaner then the 800 ho's.

Really.. hmm... well you do have an oil cooler, you just didn't know it. It's built into the inside of your engine... anyways...

I'm also not sure your comprehending my previous post... Hopefully Mile Hi Outlaw chimes in...

hedge · #55 01-17-2012, 07:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

just give it up man. You are just hoping us 2012 owners have issues so you can feel better about owning a 2011 gen 1. Your not as knowledgable as you think you are. Talking about the aluminum frames didnt help your case lol did you know that the gen 2's have an oil cooler on the front of the crank case? When i owned a 2008 tcat i noticed it had a huge rad compared to can ams and a oil cooler and that thing ran cool all the time. I was hoping can-am would do the same thing and they did. That was one of the few things the tcat had over a can-am.

qft

atvmodster · #56 01-17-2012, 07:29 PM

lol well if it was built inside its not getting air to cool it is it? 420890180 thats the new part number for the "oil radiator" .

ubergod · #57 01-17-2012, 07:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BAMGADE800

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

For 2012 on the GEN 2s yes the 800 does.. And yes a larger radiator with more fresh air flowing through it is going to help with over heating.

Define over heating, The ECU dictates when to throw the limp home mode light, my bet is they did 3 things on a G2...

Lowered fan turn on temp a few degrees
Larger Radiator
Higher temp limp home mode

All these mask the problem they don't fix the problem.

The Rad is the ONLY thing needed in this case (factory fix), but without a way to turn on the fan at a lower temp then it really doesn't help your temp swings..

Get a fan controller, not because you don't see an overheating limp home mode, but for the life of your engine... Do you understand how temperature effects how metals contract and expand?

I'm not picking on this one thing, hell this is one thing I see they did better on the G2's than the G1's but atleast on G1's they let you know there is a problem to fix, now with the G2's they mask any issues and you have a false sense of security.

The 800R G1's have an oil cooler.... you just don't know it...

Oh god, not this BS again... Lol!!!

IronBear · #58 01-18-2012, 02:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

well put, there is a few guys that dont even have the gen 2s and there cutting them down. I have owned both gens and over all the g2 is a better built unit. Better frame, stronger suspension, stronger rear diff and gear box. The stock cvt exhaust is also improved. Lots of little things as well. There will be a few lil kinks but by 2013 im sure they will all be fixed. Wouldnt trade mine for any other bike!

I'm right there with you!

WiNdGaDe800 · #59 01-18-2012, 05:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by atvmodster

lol well if it was built inside its not getting air to cool it is it? 420890180 thats the new part number for the "oil radiator" .

I never read that you said Air Cooled sorry. The oil cooler on the G1's is cooled by coolant, one reason your coolant system was taxed so much on a G1, but if you keep your coolant cool then it's not an issue. Now that you say the oil cooler isn't in the coolant system then that is another thing they changed to try and keep away from overheating, but IMO they are hurting themselves more than helping. When you add an air cooled oil cooler to a G1 bike you still had the Coolant oil cooler cooling the oil at idle...

Personally I'd rather have it as the G1 style, because at Idle your oil can't be cooled in a G2, where as a G1 you will keep your oil cool... Because something is changed or new doesn't mean it's better.

Or is there a fan on the oil cooler? If not then I'd probably go ahead and mount a fan on it and wire it in with your coolant fan, and install a Hayden Fan controller if you truly love you engine.

I don't care that some of you disagree with me.

It's just a debate is all.

Slyder01 · #60 01-18-2012, 07:39 AM

I rode the the 2011's and never would have purchased a 2012 1000xt if they wouldn't have changed things. The bike handles better, period.

Also it was more than just a frame and rad that was changed.
How about the 3 position dsp, brake calipers, rear hitch, suspension,, etc..
Oh and by the way,, THE BAD ASS POWER OF THE 1000!! Oh yea baby! I'll race any of your stock 2011's anyday!