2012 1000 xt cooling system

Mile Hi Outlaw · #21 02-20-2012, 12:19 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GOFORIT

Been riding my 1000XT in all situations and zero, zero, zero, overheating issues. It is a dream compared to my 2010 650XT.

The problem is that most all people who ride a CA think that it is normal for an engine to operate at a temp of 50* over the therm stat. Yes this is normal for A CAN-AM engine but it is not the way that an engine is to operate. An engine should not run more that 10 degree above the listing on the stat. With the 150 stat the engine should not go over 170. Above 170 the stat has no control of the engines temp. So if you were to start the engine and let it run at an idle the fan will come on at 203. This is over heating.
As for the new bypass that CA now has on the 1000 this is another item to meet the EPA exhaust requirements. This lets the engine warm up with in a minute. Once the engine is warm it slowly starts to use the cold water from the rad.

DaveB · #22 02-20-2012, 08:13 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mile Hi Outlaw

Quote: Originally Posted by GOFORIT

Been riding my 1000XT in all situations and zero, zero, zero, overheating issues. It is a dream compared to my 2010 650XT.

The problem is that most all people who ride a CA think that it is normal for an engine to operate at a temp of 50* over the therm stat. Yes this is normal for A CAN-AM engine but it is not the way that an engine is to operate. An engine should not run more that 10 degree above the listing on the stat. With the 150 stat the engine should not go over 170. Above 170 the stat has no control of the engines temp. So if you were to start the engine and let it run at an idle the fan will come on at 203. This is over heating.
As for the new bypass that CA now has on the 1000 this is another item to meet the EPA exhaust requirements. This lets the engine warm up with in a minute. Once the engine is warm it slowly starts to use the cold water from the rad.

You need some new schtick. I know you know more than a Can Am engineer, and you've proved it over and over on multiple forums

but time for a new "cause". How about headlights, or racks, or something?

Mile Hi Outlaw · #23 02-20-2012, 10:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveB

Quote: Originally Posted by Mile Hi Outlaw

Quote: Originally Posted by GOFORIT

Been riding my 1000XT in all situations and zero, zero, zero, overheating issues. It is a dream compared to my 2010 650XT.

The problem is that most all people who ride a CA think that it is normal for an engine to operate at a temp of 50* over the therm stat. Yes this is normal for A CAN-AM engine but it is not the way that an engine is to operate. An engine should not run more that 10 degree above the listing on the stat. With the 150 stat the engine should not go over 170. Above 170 the stat has no control of the engines temp. So if you were to start the engine and let it run at an idle the fan will come on at 203. This is over heating.
As for the new bypass that CA now has on the 1000 this is another item to meet the EPA exhaust requirements. This lets the engine warm up with in a minute. Once the engine is warm it slowly starts to use the cold water from the rad.

You need some new schtick. I know you know more than a Can Am engineer, and you've proved it over and over on multiple forums

but time for a new "cause". How about headlights, or racks, or something?

Dave it is not that I'm smarter than there engineers. The engineers have one thing in mind. That is how to get the power out of these engines and still get them to pass EPA requirements. Im telling owners how to get the bike to once again run cool as CA intended them to by the installation of there 150 stat. And at the same time get just a little more power.
Another example is the engineers installed the cooling system bypass on the 1000 not to help cooling but to meet EPA requirements.

DaveB · #24 02-21-2012, 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Mile Hi Outlaw

Quote: Originally Posted by DaveB

Quote: Originally Posted by Mile Hi Outlaw

The problem is that most all people who ride a CA think that it is normal for an engine to operate at a temp of 50* over the therm stat. Yes this is normal for A CAN-AM engine but it is not the way that an engine is to operate. An engine should not run more that 10 degree above the listing on the stat. With the 150 stat the engine should not go over 170. Above 170 the stat has no control of the engines temp. So if you were to start the engine and let it run at an idle the fan will come on at 203. This is over heating.
As for the new bypass that CA now has on the 1000 this is another item to meet the EPA exhaust requirements. This lets the engine warm up with in a minute. Once the engine is warm it slowly starts to use the cold water from the rad.

You need some new schtick. I know you know more than a Can Am engineer, and you've proved it over and over on multiple forums

but time for a new "cause". How about headlights, or racks, or something?

Dave it is not that I'm smarter than there engineers. The engineers have one thing in mind. That is how to get the power out of these engines and still get them to pass EPA requirements. Im telling owners how to get the bike to once again run cool as CA intended them to by the installation of there 150 stat. And at the same time get just a little more power.
Another example is the engineers installed the cooling system bypass on the 1000 not to help cooling but to meet EPA requirements.

OR...it could be a better system using a surge tank instead of an overflow...they use the same bypass and surge bottle on the sleds too.

Nonetheless, it's time to expand your repertoire...

uprightshark · #25 02-21-2012, 12:34 PM

Hammer down Dave .... lol

SlowKrawl · #26 02-22-2012, 06:36 PM

For anyone wondering, they are telling me its a sticky thermostat which I had kind of suspected. Hopefully thats all it is and not a bigger underlying issue.

Mile Hi Outlaw · #27 02-22-2012, 11:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SlowKrawl

For anyone wondering, they are telling me its a sticky thermostat which I had kind of suspected. Hopefully thats all it is and not a bigger underlying issue.

Thermostats were not made to be forced into the full open position. And after a while they will go bad because of this. If the cooling system is operating as it should the stat will never reach the full open position much less be put to the stress of 210 degree. On the CA your stat is put under this stress every time you change your riding speeds from slow to fast for more than 5 minutes.

BigOutlaw · #28 02-25-2012, 12:29 AM

I think mine will be the ultimate test after my rad mod is completed. I'm planning on dropping the radiator flat on the rack by modifying Get Torqed's rad relocate kit.

If it doesn't overheat with the rad flat, I'll be more than happy! If it does I'm shoving it back into the back and washing my hands of it already!

Mile Hi Outlaw · #29 02-25-2012, 08:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by BigOutlaw

I think mine will be the ultimate test after my rad mod is completed. I'm planning on dropping the radiator flat on the rack by modifying Get Torqed's rad relocate kit.

If it doesn't overheat with the rad flat, I'll be more than happy! If it does I'm shoving it back into the back and washing my hands of it already!

There is no way that with the rad flat that the natural air flow will go through the rad. You will have to run the fan all the time. For those that are mudders this is the location for the rad. So you either have to lean the rad up about 45 degree or live with the fact that you will need to run the fan all the time.

reese3 · #30 12-04-2012, 11:42 PM

So where do you get a 150 thermostat? Are there any other "Mods" required to make it work without it throwing codes etc???
Sounds like a great idea and possibly made better with the installation of a "aftermarket oil cooler" as well???
Please let me know if I'm heading in the right direction. THANKS GUYS!!!!!!!!!!