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I have read and read and read some more about weak Can-Am frames, blah, blah.

Some guys put pressure treated wood in there, some guys use square steel tubing, etc., etc.

I'm picking up my new Outtie on Tuesday and I want to address this frame issue before I even ride it. I have Ricochet skids on the way, but I want to beef up the frame too.

Soooo, I was thinking about filling the hollow frame spar with some type of epoxy material. It would go in as a liquid and fill the inside perfectly. Once hard, it would make the frame SOLID! We use a two-part epoxy at work that is VERY strong but it only comes in handheld gun size quantities.

We used to build fiberglass boats and we'd use A-B foam in 55 gal. drums. Shoot that stuff all up under the deck to add flotation. It would expand like crazy and dry pretty fast. It's easily cut, ground, etc. once hard but I'm thinking if it's in a hollow tube enclosed on all sides, it would give the frame more crush and dent resistance.

Am I thinking clearly here or way offline?

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I think you will be OK with the Skids, IMO.....
The Ricochets cover the bottom very nicely...

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Update your profile so we know what unit you are getting.

I haven't heard about our frames being weak. I have heard our trailing arms bending if you are jumping a outlander. Which is kid of insane anyway. They weigh almost 800lbs.

I just totalled my '08 outlander 800 max xt. The unit barrel rolled down a hill about 75 feet. It rolled about 5-6 times and was jumping off the ground about 10 feet and slamming back down. The frame was fine. It didn't bend or break. It bent the upper supports that hold the body on. it also broke handle bars and gauge pod and flattened both right side tires and bent the rims. This was an extreme crash and the frame was just fine.

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Man, just do a search for Can-Am frame mod...you'll find tons of information.

Maybe they beefed up the frames for 2008?

I have seen pictures of the hollow frame spar and the metal is very thin. Smallest bump into a rock or stump and that thing is dented in. That opens up the possiblility of bending at that point.

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Frames do get bent and tweaked from major wrecks. Had several of them come in the shop, but most of them fell of a trailer or some major rolling. I purchased a trade-in that fell off a trailer (500 max xt) and am having it rebuilt now, frame and a lot more. But they are actually pretty tough. The only week part is the fact that they are a skid and everything hits the skid. The Ricochet skid plates (help)this problem. We sold a lot of them and never seen the (extensive) damage again (front bottom impact dents). Yet the idea of filling the frame with some sort of epoxy is quite intriguing (and would recommend) Good luck. Attached a pic of the bike I am rebuilding. You can kinda see the frame damage from this angle. (update edit)
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I assure you that Riccohets do not solve the problem. Do the "frame mod" its too easy and cheap not to. Trust me if you really ride hard you will need it. learned the hard way.

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i have ric. skids & the frame mod(steel tubes) its probably the best $20 invested in the bike!

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I like the expanding foam idea, if it was not too messy. I knew a guy who put some kind of that stuff in between his Ricochet skids, and the floorboards/frame to keep mud/snow/debrit out. It was black foam, and it felt like hard plastic after. he had it shaved down to look factory.

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yep, Can ams have had problems with the frames for a while. In fact last I heard (I havent had a chance to really confirm it yet) these guys racing the 450 are going through a frame per race. Mines cracked in 3 spots and BRP says "sorry you abused it" and I had a plow frame. I thought that would protect it pretty well, guess I was wrong....do the mod. I wish I had known about it.
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Yea, it would no doubt be messy, but you could shave it off anywhere it oozed out after it dried.

I just don't know if it would do much for strengthening.

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CATVOS 4" Gen. 2 lift
28" Radial Outlaw tires
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