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When is steep too steep !

I bottled it today going up a rocky hill but from the bottom it seamed fine..... So at what sort of incline do you look for another way round ! I also didn't like the fact I had to use ALL breaks instead of being able to use front only when reversing down !

It was the first real rough suff today I have ever been in, one wheel in the air stuff, feeling the bike twist, very strange feeling indeed, I just don't know when it far enough , when will it tip !!! I'm on a Max by the way ! What I also found was it was very hard to get my weight over the front due to the boards.
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When you can look at a hill and think to yourself "I don't know about this?" DON'T! Always run in low range on any type of slow, steep grade. If the hill is steep enough you have to get your weight over the front end on a MAX, you probably should NOT be there. Speed is a key in hill climbing and knowing what is on the other side really helps.

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That's what I mean, I wasnt sure if I NEEDED have the weight over the front ! I guess i don't want to find out by accident ! I don't want to try and find it's limits by accident !!! It was probably at about 40 degrees tops ????
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40 degrees with some speed on a short hill will be no issue if the ground is hard. If the ground is soft and the hill is 40 degrees and it goes for half a mile up, think hard before you try it. All depends on the terrain, length of the hill, distance to build up any kind of speed to attempt the hill, rider experience will be the KEY to anything, there are a lot of variables. As I mentioned at first if you're not sure, DON"T DO IT. There are really no set limits.

This video looks innocent enough BUT;


You better have a CLUE at all as to what your machine can handle.


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And it always helps if you don't ride with MORONS, lol.


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I take my Max to dune's and to Moab slid rocks.

Dune's sure are intimidating as going down the dune it slowly slide's down while idling but better be sure rider haves straight line down as going a tad sideways will get things bad quikly.

At the rocks we use safety rope and while going down it's tied to rear grab bar and few guys stay at top and keeps the rope lose but are ready to pull it tight if it's going to tip over.

Same procedure while going climbing up the steep hill with 45 degrees or more and here the rope is most important as once a while in the middle of the climb is a little ledge or dip where machine gets stuck and just spins the wheels.
Back down, more momentum and if blowing through pops a wheelie then guys will pull the nose down.

Though, this requires group ride so each will help each.

When riding alone I just go around and stay safe.

Just front brakes? On such steep situations I'm always on 4x4 so it will brake all wheels.

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Good info and help as ever guys !

I think the bikes limitations are much higher than mine so I should be ok !
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You come to anything that you don't feel comfortable riding, always ok to look for a better way around. If you've come across a hill climb, sometimes it's best to walk to the top, find out whats on the other side. Could be a vertical drop and that ain't going to be pretty for you if you try climbing it. I ride around mostly people that have enough sense to stop, look up and say "Hell no" then ride around it. But there are some motocross riders that i come across that'll hit any type of jump, hill, climb. But on a quad since we're much heavier, no sense in risking your neck cause it might be your neck that's broke in the hospital.

Had mine roll on top of me( not from straight forward climbing, but i side-climbed a little hill and made a mistake by not going fast enough). Having a 800 pound or more machine on top of you is not fun at all. Luckily i was with friends and they rolled it off me, no damage to quad or me, just felt like a turtle on it's back.
Best to ride these places with people you know, cause i'd hate to have this happen to anyone on their own.

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I wont do this again looking back at the vid!!!!!!


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nice vid. Love the Jackyl!!!

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