Changes to 2007 Outy ???

[Kevin Z]

The changes they are refering to are for the Renegade

All of you are confusing 4 wheel drive with a front locker.

When you put the Outlander on 4x4, all four wheels are driven.

But the front has a differential because the wheels travel different distance when turning.
When one wheel looses traction and slips, the visco lock progressivly kicks in a limited slip differential, all the way to a full lock.
The delay to a full lock is intentional. The progressive application of power improves the handling of the machine dramatically.

[cc1999]

I was looking at the parts break down for the 07' and compared the part numbers on the battery strap, and discovered that BRP list the same part number in 06' as they are in 07'.

Yellxt, did you see this on a machine or something? I was looking into trying to get the improved components but no luck finding new part numbers.

[MtnOuty]

kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused.

[Kevin Z]

MtnOuty wrote:

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kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused.

As long as both wheels have traction, they are being driven. The problem with a differential is it will spin the tire that breaks loose. That's where a limited slip or locker comes in.
There is no such thing as three wheel drive. Like I said, there all driven. I really want you say you don't understand differentials, but that would be rude.:lololol:

[Yellxt]

CC1999,

Sold my 06 XT and purchased a 07 Max. Took the battery out to install my battery tender pigtail. The strap seemed a little more narrow, butthicker. Not sure how the strap is secured at the front, (never looked, may have spoke out of turn),but it never came off no matter how much Isnatched it around. Sorry for the delayed response. Just came in from work.

[MtnOuty]

Kevin Z wrote:

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MtnOuty wrote:

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kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused.

As long as both wheels have traction, they are being driven. The problem with a differential is it will spin the tire that breaks loose. That's where a limited slip or locker comes in.
There is no such thing as three wheel drive. Like I said, there all driven. I really want you say you don't understand differentials, but that would be rude.:lololol:

Well, I can be educated, but you will always be a smart a$$.

[JimJa43]

Kevin, Technically you are correct, but from a practical standpoint so are those espousing the 3-wheel drive formula. And you are a smart guy so you know exactly what's being said here.

It's really about torque, not power per sea. In a situation where the front wheels are spinning and the vehicle is not moving, torque is applied to both front wheels equally and the wheel with the LEAST traction determines the amount applied to the opposite front wheel which receives the SAME amount of torque as the wheel with the LEAST traction. Presumably the wheel with the least torque is not getting enough POWER to the ground IOT move the vehicle. Posi-traction, excuse me, Visco-Lok, is nothing more than a limited slip which under the above situation gradually raises the torque to BOTH front wheels until the wheel with the GREATER traction begins to either spin or move the vehicle.

With a direct connection between the front and rear axles, and the rear axle locked, which they all are save for Polaris' turf mode for their side-by-side model, torque is split between the front and the rear.

So everyone is right here. Kevin, you are of course technically correct, but from a practical standpoint, it really is 3-wheel drive since the torque is applied to the wheel with the least amount of traction, which will not provide the power required to get the job done. But you know that...

Still, I'd like engagement to happen quicker. It seems a little dialed down for my tastes. And those of you with bigger tires, well, it's worse for you.

[cc1999]

:gp:Jim, I think thats the best explantion of the visclock system yet. I don't even try to explain it, other than it works automaticaly and has been better for me in that since, because by the time I would think to pull the lever on the Kawi's it was generaly to late. Good job Jim.

[MtnOuty]

ditto :gp:

[outlandish]

JimJa43, good explanation. I have added it to the review HERE

BTW I found that pic on the web, hope it's right.