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post #1 of 36 Old 05-02-2019, 03:44 PM Thread Starter
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Melted seat and fix

I purchased my 2015 Cam-am Outlander XMR used with about 170hrs on it. Well the seat fit all funky looking, itís was melted thatís why. I ordered a new seat and put 3 strips of heat shielding on it and put heat shielding where it was melted on the other seat.

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looking good!

FWIW, I've read that the exhaust heat and seat damage isn't so much from a lack of shielding or proximity to other things, as it is a result of the OE tune from BRP being a bit on the lean side. Leaner exhaust=hotter exhaust. Most of the "fixes" I've read involved a tuner or reflash to richen the mixture up a little.
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You need a tuner or reflash like stated. I had a melted side panel and a melted gas tank on my 2011. Don't let things get worse. I got lucky mine didn't burn up. Mine runs a lot cooler now.
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looking good!

FWIW, I've read that the exhaust heat and seat damage isn't so much from a lack of shielding or proximity to other things, as it is a result of the OE tune from BRP being a bit on the lean side. Leaner exhaust=hotter exhaust. Most of the "fixes" I've read involved a tuner or reflash to richen the mixture up a little.
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You need a tuner or reflash like stated. I had a melted side panel and a melted gas tank on my 2011. Don't let things get worse. I got lucky mine didn't burn up. Mine runs a lot cooler now.
Yeah the guy that had the atv before me was running an HMF Performance pipe with no tuner. What’s crazy is the dealer installed the pipe on a new showroom atv with no tuner. When I purchased it from him I switched to a HMF Titan QS pipe and installed the HMF optimizer.

I messed with the first 3 settings and forgot what it came preprogrammed with... according to the HMF web site this is what I should set it too right?


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That would be a good place to start.


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I have the same quad, and the same damage to my seat, and had to replace the battery tray. Been looking into buying a new seat, how much it run you and where did you buy it? Running PCV right now so far so good, batteru tray holding up, and the aircraft grade heat tape i added is still there.
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looking good!

FWIW, I've read that the exhaust heat and seat damage isn't so much from a lack of shielding or proximity to other things, as it is a result of the OE tune from BRP being a bit on the lean side. Leaner exhaust=hotter exhaust. Most of the "fixes" I've read involved a tuner or reflash to richen the mixture up a little.
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You need a tuner or reflash like stated. I had a melted side panel and a melted gas tank on my 2011. Don't let things get worse. I got lucky mine didn't burn up. Mine runs a lot cooler now.
Yeah the guy that had the atv before me was running an HMF Performance pipe with no tuner. Whatís crazy is the dealer installed the pipe on a new showroom atv with no tuner. When I purchased it from him I switched to a HMF Titan QS pipe and installed the HMF optimizer.

I messed with the first 3 settings and forgot what it came preprogrammed with... according to the HMF web site this is what I should set it too right?


I would add 3.5-4 to Green mode....Green/Blue set at 1 or 1.5
I would add 5-5.5 to Yellow mode....Yellow/Blue at 2.5-3
Definitely 0.0 added in the Red mode....Red/Blue therefore doesn't matter.
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all can am atvs need the exhaust headers wrapped with heat tape. i have documented mine wrapped and not wrapped and there is a difference of 300 degrees. i would also just bit the bullet and get your ecm flashed by monster.

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All can am atvs need the exhaust headers wrapped with heat tape.
Is that enough to avoid melting, or do you also suggest using insulation tape on the parts listed above? Adding tape to the exhaust pipe seems the cheapest and easiest option, no? But my most important question is if the engine is safe with a slip-on (as claimed) and no ECU tuning. Thanks.
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Your engine may survive, but you will probably continue to melt plastic if you don't cool it down somehow. Any pipe that is more free flowing than stock will lean it out more and add heat. If I disconnect the AFR+ and just use the temp gauge, I can see 20F-30F degrees hotter just with the stock pipe.
I gave up on the exhaust wrap after trying 2 different kinds and neither lasted. I actually had better luck with the Hayden fan controller than the wrap before I put the AFR+ on it.
Insulating tape is a good thing to do. I have it everywhere the exhaust is near plastic.


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