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Bike feels tippy - suggestions?

I'm fairly new to riding (maybe 30 hours on intermediate and some advanced terrain), but my Outlander feels a bit tippy on steep sideways slants. I've got the 570 Outlander Max DPS.
Other people I'm riding with don't seem too concerned with going over the same obstacles and roots.

I've reduced the shocks pre-load to 1 notch above the loosest. That seemed to help a bit. I'm also running 5psi on Carlisle ACT's. 26 x 12 x 8 in the front and 26 x 12 x 10 in the rear.
Other things I can think of are:

+ Get wider tires to make the bike wider
+ Get wheels with negative offset to make the bike wider
+ Remove sway bar
+ Elka Suspension - but holding off for that as it is $$$

Any other ideas or suggestions?
What sort of wheels can people recommend? I'd like to stick to a 12 inch wheel and 26 inch tire.
If i should do wheels - what kind of offset?
Is this a common issue?

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I noticed the same thing on my outlander too and I assume it's because of the stiff rear sway bar. The front will be fine going over uneven terrain but as soon as the rear tires hit the articulation just is not there and it bucks you to the side. Unfortunately if you disconnect the sway bar high speed cornering will be really tippy but for slow, rough, and off camber terrain I'm sure it would help to disconnect it. Personally I just deal with it like I would a snowmobile and just lean hard.

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The easiest and most cost effective solution would be to add a set of 1" (so, 2" total) wheel spacers to your machine and see if that does the trick.

Something like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-ATV-Wheel...frcectupt=true

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Wheel spacers would definitely be the cheapest and easiest solution if you want to hold off on any big wheel, tire, and suspension upgrades.



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True regarding spacers. I thought i'd look at wheels because they would put less stress on the joint if i could manage like a 1-2 inch total gain in width with offsets.
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My 2011 Outlander XXC used to feel really tippy. It had the front sway bar and I finally took it off. Much better now. I'm sure yours only has the rear bar so no help there though.


One thng I would recommend is to either have someone jack up one side of the quad with you on it or get yourself on a safe side hill and get used to the balance point. It took me a while sidehilling with tracks on to get used to the tippy feel. I stopped on side hills several times where I felt it was going to tip and rocked the quad to get familiar with the fact it wasn't going over. Might help anyway.
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True regarding spacers. I thought i'd look at wheels because they would put less stress on the joint if i could manage like a 1-2 inch total gain in width with offsets.
i would look into wheels if i were you. Sti just came out with a new 12 inch rim, HD4 that looks nice and its cheap, $75 per rim. that was shipped price on amazon and eBay. 5x2 off set will get you about 1.25 wider per side.

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Your issue is the crappy stock suspension on all the trim levels below the XTP. I put a set of Fox Podiums on my Max XT for $580. Totally resolved the issue. Very stable on off camber hills and high speed cornering.
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All excellent recommendations here so far, and I'll go back to the very first few words in your opening statement "I'm fairly new to riding"

I'd tell ya to get some seat time on the thing, get used to its behaviors and "feel", before going after wheels/tires/suspension/etc. It's just like tuning a racecar, you don't make sweeping major changes after an unexpected result, but rather, minor ones.

I'd take the air pressures up a few psi in your tires, get rid of some of that sidewall roll/flex, and grab you a set of wheel spacers. Those are cheap/easy to install/completely reversible, and in a "minor", say 1" width, really shouldn't bother the wheel bearings.

Other than that, like I said, just ride it. I also like DrZ idea of going and ahead and manually "tipping it", to get a feel for the point of no return. It's likely a lot more than your seat of the pants meter is leading you to believe. If your other riding mates are traversing the same terrain without too much drama, again, it may be more of your unfamiliarity with the bikes limitations, than the bike itself.

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