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So, I am just wondering how necessary the 10 hr service really is. For those of you that do your own service work and have performed this service, how much debris have you actually seen in the oil? Has anyone taken the time to adjust the valves and actually needed to make changes?
My personal opinion is that this is a way to get you back into the dealer and allow the dealer to make some easy money for a service that isn't really necessary.
Before you start attacking me for bringing this up, let me give you a little history about myself. I have been turning wrenches for over 40 years and building engines for 38 as well as transmissions, differentials, etc. I am an ASE certified Master Tech and a maintenance supervisor at a fairly large state facility.
If a job is done clean, there is very little metal contamination. Break in wear on new differentials is usually negligible although some people like to change their rear axle oil on a new truck after 1000 miles, it is not required by the manufacturer. Magnetic drain plugs or magnets placed in the sump usually pick up most break in metals.
Some engine builders run a break in oil when running an engine on a dyno and then change the oil as soon as the dyno run is over, but I doubt that any manufacturers do this.
So, I have a brand new Outlander 800 Max dps 2013 model and I am debating when I will do my first service and how far I will go. I have shell rotella t6 on hand for when I will do the first engine oil change and I have one oem oil filter (last one I will buy) that cost about 15.00. I can buy K&N high flow oil filters for less than 5.00 each, so I won't be giving the dealer money on that.
When I was getting the overview from my dealer on my new ride, he told me about the service light coming on at 10 hrs and needing to bring it in to have it cleared and the initial service done. I told the manager that I had just purchased software at work that will allow me to access the computer on all the Can Ams, clear codes and program keys and you could have heard a pin drop.
I am usually over the top on needed maintenance, but I won't throw money away on unneeded things. If my oil is dirty, I will change it regardless of miles, but if it is still clean, it stays in service.
My personal opinion is that this is a way to get you back into the dealer and allow the dealer to make some easy money for a service that isn't really necessary.
Before you start attacking me for bringing this up, let me give you a little history about myself. I have been turning wrenches for over 40 years and building engines for 38 as well as transmissions, differentials, etc. I am an ASE certified Master Tech and a maintenance supervisor at a fairly large state facility.
If a job is done clean, there is very little metal contamination. Break in wear on new differentials is usually negligible although some people like to change their rear axle oil on a new truck after 1000 miles, it is not required by the manufacturer. Magnetic drain plugs or magnets placed in the sump usually pick up most break in metals.
Some engine builders run a break in oil when running an engine on a dyno and then change the oil as soon as the dyno run is over, but I doubt that any manufacturers do this.
So, I have a brand new Outlander 800 Max dps 2013 model and I am debating when I will do my first service and how far I will go. I have shell rotella t6 on hand for when I will do the first engine oil change and I have one oem oil filter (last one I will buy) that cost about 15.00. I can buy K&N high flow oil filters for less than 5.00 each, so I won't be giving the dealer money on that.
When I was getting the overview from my dealer on my new ride, he told me about the service light coming on at 10 hrs and needing to bring it in to have it cleared and the initial service done. I told the manager that I had just purchased software at work that will allow me to access the computer on all the Can Ams, clear codes and program keys and you could have heard a pin drop.
I am usually over the top on needed maintenance, but I won't throw money away on unneeded things. If my oil is dirty, I will change it regardless of miles, but if it is still clean, it stays in service.