2013 Can-am 650 xmr. Winch questions

Tozguy said:

I'm very happy with my Can-Am HD2500. I had it apart and find that it is well made. After 2 years of regular use and dunking, it has not leaked at all. If there is any sticker shock involved with your purchase it would be the ole cry once principle. Looking forward to seeing how it works out for you.

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I had another atv, a linhai dragonfly 300cc bought it brand new back in 2017, and it has a 3000lbs( I don't know if I can trust that number) that I used 3-4 times.
With that rig never went out far, or big muddy roads, but having that winch on it given me a safe feeling that if I get stuck than I can get myself out.
But now with the Can am, I go into roads that big forestry machines use that pulls trees with no problem, the "road" if you can call it that, it's very wet and slippery mud, that almost got me stuck, and I drive alone ( yes I know that's a big No no thing, but hey I can't change that), so that is what get me into to get a winch... or I have to go back safe-ish, roads.

Agramon said:

Update time again

Today I've got the winch:
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It has everything, so that was a relief.
First of all I'm not a mechanic never did something like this, changing oil, oil filters, and air filter I know how to do.
But installing a winch is hard...at least for me, either I'm an idiot or I'm just don't know how to install it, after 2 hours of fluffing around I decided to tear my rig front apart, that way I could install the winch. But hey it worked. But the time flew away and I didn't finished today, hopefully tomorrow.
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It got dirty but who cares. It's inside it's place and I didn't needed to grind to put inside.
The electricity part comes tomorrow, wish me luck.

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Nope you are definitely just an idiot..... Lol no no bud, I'm just kidding. I've actually heard that these bikes do take a bit of finagling to install or replace a winch. Not as simple as some of the other bikes on the market. But then again they also come with. From my understanding, the mounting holes already built right into the frame for the winch. No separate mounting plate required. I could be wrong on that, just something I had read. I know my 2018 700 Kodiak was super simple to install. The winch took me like 5 minutes to mount it to the bike specific mounting plate from warn, and then about 15 minutes I had it bolted and wired into my bike. Even my old Honda wasn't that easy. Just looking at how well the wind just tucked in the front of this Outlander, it does kind of look like a chore to install or replace a winch on it.

Thanks for the update. Glad to see that you are off to a good start. Doing something for the first time always takes more time. I also found it a bit tricky to remove and reinstall my winch the first time.
Looking forward to following your next step.

Iamcanadian said:

There's actually a bit more than just the bolt pattern that determines if a wind will fit on a bike or not. Physical size of the winch plays a huge part. Many smaller bikes will only accept up to a 2500 lb winch with very few 3500 lb being small enough to squeeze in. I can't say for sure on the 650 Can-Am but on just about every other manufacturer 700 or smaller bike uses a 2500 lb. A 3500 is almost impossible to squeeze in most machines.

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i put a 4000lb in my g3 outlander,lol,and it fit with room to spare.

Man I'm stuck, don't know where to install the solenoid bracket, videos I have seen shows smaller atv's 570 , and it doesn't fit.

Post lots of pictures maybe we can help

Agramon said:

Man I'm stuck, don't know where to install the solenoid bracket, videos I have seen shows smaller atv's 570 , and it doesn't fit.

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There should be a little bracket/clip of sorts, if you're looking at the RF tire, at about the 10 o'clock position behind it, on the downtube of the frame there. That's where the factory winch solenoid was installed, your frame should have the same provision.

What mess??? I can see the floor.

Chapter Two Of My Follies



Hello again. So I have a simple question this time and I didn't think this needs a new thread or what's it called, anyway my question is: What grease gun do you guys, girls, recommend ? ( The WWII General motors one doesn't count)

Think I got mine at local walmart or something, I forget. Hasn't let me down yet 🤷‍♂️

There are lock-n-lube tips that make the job easier, heck if you've got the coin to splurge, a battery powered grease gun is fancy.

I have a 20v DeWalt and of course a manual pump. If going with a manual, personally I like the lender over a hand squeeze, many are just opposite, but all and guy that has had to manually grease a piece of heavy equipment or farm machinery with tons of zerks, the leave ends up being easier.
Milwaukee makes a great battery powered gun as does the grease kings themselves... Lincoln.

I think I'm going with a manual (probably a Yato brand one) something like a 600ml is enough for me, I don't see the reason to pay for an expensive tool that I rarely use ( says the guy who just installed a winch on his atv that I probably use even less XD)

Agramon said:

I think I'm going with a manual (probably a Yato brand one) something like a 600ml is enough for me, I don't see the reason to pay for an expensive tool that I rarely use ( says the guy who just installed a winch on his atv that I probably use even less XD)

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One single time you end up needing that winch out in the middle of nowhere by yourself, trust me you'll consider it paid for lol
If you can get your hands on a manual gun made by Lincoln, that would be your best bet. The one that holds the 450 g tubes. The tubes of grease are cheap and will last you for a long time

Like a lot of things, I find you get what you pay for with grease guns. I've had a Lincoln with a flex hose for 20+ years. You'll need some regular tips and a needle tip. I also like this:

https://www.amazon.ca/LockNLube-Gre...keywords=grease+gun+tip&qid=1685145326&sr=8-7

Iamcanadian said:

One single time you end up needing that winch out in the middle of nowhere by yourself, trust me you'll consider it paid for lol
If you can get your hands on a manual gun made by Lincoln, that would be your best bet. The one that holds the 450 g tubes. The tubes of grease are cheap and will last you for a long time

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Don't get me wrong I'm happy I got that winch, and I wouldn't change that.
But I don't see the point in getting an expensive tool that I use once a year.

By the way any grease recommendation ?

Agramon said:

Don't get me wrong I'm happy I got that winch, and I wouldn't change that.
But I don't see the point in getting an expensive tool that I use once a year.

By the way any grease recommendation ?

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Not saying you need to get an expensive battery operated grease gun, a manual Lincoln gun is like $15CDN. I would hope you are going to be heading your bike more than once a year, if not, you'll be spending alot more money on bushings, bearings and tierods, and u-joints.

I love my DeWalt 20v grease gun worth every penny. Also a lock n lube is more important that whatever gun you pick.