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#44 · (Edited)
Savage5 said:
Do you have part #? With these 3 mods, does it completely transform this machine?
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Front sprocket is non-OEM. You can search 428-17t-20mm, but here's the one I found on Amazon.

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Amazon.com: GOOFIT 20mm Sprocket Front for Motorcycle ATV Dirt Bike (428-17T) : Automotive

Buy GOOFIT 20mm Sprocket Front for Motorcycle ATV Dirt Bike (428-17T): Automotive - Amazon.com âś“ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
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Completely different. Ride it in stock form first, but try and contain your disappointment. Honestly it's the sole reason this thread exists. I know it displays oddly sometimes, but if you read through the whole thing it's one comment after another of buyers that were unhappy with their purchases.
 
#45 ·
SCarter6675 said:
Front sprocket is non-OEM. You can search 428-17t-20mm, but here's the one I found on Amazon.

www.amazon.com

Amazon.com: GOOFIT 20mm Sprocket Front for Motorcycle ATV Dirt Bike (428-17T) : Automotive

Buy GOOFIT 20mm Sprocket Front for Motorcycle ATV Dirt Bike (428-17T): Automotive - Amazon.com âś“ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com

Completely different. Ride it in stock form first, but try and contain your disappointment. Honestly it's the sole reason this thread exists. I know it displays oddly sometimes, but if you read through the whole thing it's one comment after another of buyers that were unhappy with their purchases.
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Thanks!! Is there amazon equivalent for the 35t sprocket?

Also I read the posts and not sure but do I require additional master links for the 35t and 17t sprockets? Or removed 3?
 
#46 ·
Savage5 said:
Thanks!! Is there amazon equivalent for the 35t sprocket?

Also I read the posts and not sure but do I require additional master links for the 35t and 17t sprockets? Or removed 3?
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I couldn't find anything non OEM that would work for the rear sprocket, as the design seems fairly proprietary. As far as shortening the chain, I don't remember what my total count is, as I initially made it too short for increasing countershaft sprocket size to 17. If you do all the gearing at once and cut to fit accordingly, you should be fine without additional Master links.
 
#47 ·
SCarter6675 said:
I couldn't find anything non OEM that would work for the rear sprocket, as the design seems fairly proprietary. As far as shortening the chain, I don't remember what my total count is, as I initially made it too short for increasing countershaft sprocket size to 17. If you do all the gearing at once and cut to fit accordingly, you should be fine without additional Master links.
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Thanks!! I was trying to find a cheaper alternative for the 35t. I thought maybe older ds50 sprocket might work? Part number A4120114500A, but cannot confirm if it would fit the rear axle
 
#48 ·
Savage5 said:
Thanks!! I was trying to find a cheaper alternative for the 35t. I thought maybe older ds50 sprocket might work? Part number A4120114500A, but cannot confirm if it would fit the rear axle
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Just doing a cursory search, the parts diagram appears very similar in design. Wouldn't surprise me if it fit. I have no experience with those models, so can't say for sure.
 
#49 ·
SCarter6675 said:
So...I've discovered the ultimate 70 mod! Let me preface this by saying just how sneaky Can-Am is. Your Renegade 70 is actually a de-tuned 110!! Don't believe me? Check the frame sticker on the left side of your machine...guarantee you it says 112cc, just like mind does. Also, in double checking critical engine components like the cylinder, piston, cylinder head, camshaft, fuel injector, throttle body, etc...THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. The key difference I found is the ECU Module, which likely explains the "70's" running into the rev limiter; which turns out to be a 1400$ part from the dealership! Ouch. However, with this in mind, do you guys think that it would be a viable investment to keep the kids on these little machines longer? idk. Still don't believe me? They have also done this on their larger sport 4x4 machines, with the Renegade 850 being a de-tuned 1000cc model. Thoughts?
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The weights in the primary and secondary clutch are also different. I've compared every single part number to the 70 and the 110, there are a few other minor differences like the suspension is different (skinnier machine) and the tire size. and of course the throttle cable. I replaced the throttle cable in my little girls 70 and put a Fischer Brothers attitude fuel controller on it to help with the sputtering, between some tuning and adjusting the throttle cable I was able to eliminate it. (I was under the impression that a dealer would not sell you a 110 ECU). IF you do go with the 110 ECU I would recommend changing the clutch weights to the 110 part numbers...... Also another note for anyone looking to buy a 70, just buy the 110 and order the 70 floor board risers and the bolts needed for install. it bolts right up and looks just like a 70. just screw in the throttle screw and turn em loose. When the littles get taller just remove the risers and the ATV will grow with them. I learned my lesson with the 70 for my middle child and done this for my youngest. Wish I would've known then what I know now.
 
#50 · (Edited)
twilkinson2007 said:
The weights in the primary and secondary clutch are also different. I've compared every single part number to the 70 and the 110, there are a few other minor differences like the suspension is different (skinnier machine) and the tire size. and of course the throttle cable. I replaced the throttle cable in my little girls 70 and put a Fischer Brothers attitude fuel controller on it to help with the sputtering, between some tuning and adjusting the throttle cable I was able to eliminate it. (I was under the impression that a dealer would not sell you a 110 ECU). IF you do go with the 110 ECU I would recommend changing the clutch weights to the 110 part numbers...... Also another note for anyone looking to buy a 70, just buy the 110 and order the 70 floor board risers and the bolts needed for install. it bolts right up and looks just like a 70. just screw in the throttle screw and turn em loose. When the littles get taller just remove the risers and the ATV will grow with them. I learned my lesson with the 70 for my middle child and done this for my youngest. Wish I would've known then what I know now.
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What are the part numbers for the 110 clutch weights? What type of gains did you see with the fuel controller? Did you do the exhaust as well?
 
#51 ·
SCarter6675 said:
What are the part numbers for the 110 clutch weights? What type of gains did you see with the fuel controller? Did you do the exhaust as well?
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Roller set part number is A2212018S000. they are 6.6 gram rollers vs the 10.3 gram rollers in the 70. As far as the fuel controller goes, there is noticeable lower end grunt to it (it spins the tires now), and it gets up to speed much quicker. she can cut a donut with it with no problem. no more top end speed because the ECU is limiting the rpms. But she has more fun on it because she can slide it around and to her "its faster". BTW there is no fuel controller for the 70, just buy the 110 controller.
 
#52 ·
twilkinson2007 said:
Roller set part number is A2212018S000. they are 6.6 gram rollers vs the 10.3 gram rollers in the 70. As far as the fuel controller goes, there is noticeable lower end grunt to it (it spins the tires now), and it gets up to speed much quicker. she can cut a donut with it with no problem. no more top end speed because the ECU is limiting the rpms. But she has more fun on it because she can slide it around and to her "its faster". BTW there is no fuel controller for the 70, just buy the 110 controller.
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I saw that, thank you. In your mods, have you re-geared as well?
 
#53 ·
2025 can am Renegade 70, just installed the 110 throttle cable part #A53910T91000 , 35 tooth 110 rear sprocket part #A41201151000 and a 17 tooth front sprocket from amazon. The 110 throttle cable allows for wide open throttle vs partial opening with the 70 cable, And the sprocket change is great! As someone already mentioned here the 70 is really the 110 engine (112cc to be exact)
 
#54 ·
darrenb505 said:
2025 can am Renegade 70, just installed the 110 throttle cable part #A53910T91000 , 35 tooth 110 rear sprocket part #A41201151000 and a 17 tooth front sprocket from amazon. The 110 throttle cable allows for wide open throttle vs partial opening with the 70 cable, And the sprocket change is great! As someone already mentioned here the 70 is really the 110 engine (112cc to be exact)
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Heck yeah man, I'm glad you're happy with it. Had you ridden it at all in stock form, or swap the parts first thing?
 
#55 ·
SCarter6675 said:
Heck yeah man, I'm glad you're happy with it. Had you ridden it at all in stock form, or swap the parts first thing?
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Yes, rode it stock, im 170 , would barley make it up driveway with limiter screw all the way out, now with cable and gearing runs like a 110! my kid ..who's 7 loves it! i did turn the limiter screw back in a bit..
 
#56 ·
darrenb505 said:
2025 can am Renegade 70, just installed the 110 throttle cable part #A53910T91000 , 35 tooth 110 rear sprocket part #A41201151000 and a 17 tooth front sprocket from amazon. The 110 throttle cable allows for wide open throttle vs partial opening with the 70 cable, And the sprocket change is great! As someone already mentioned here the 70 is really the 110 engine (112cc to be exact)
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Great to know! I'm still waiting for the 35t sprocket
 
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