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I've been watching some ATV Television shows lately and was quite surprised that the host of the show prefers the 750 KQ Suzuki over any other bike. He has lots of machines in his garage but the KQ is always the one he takes on his long trail ride shows. He loves it. When asked about Can Am's, he said they were nice bikes but not as well designed as the KQ.
I've owned four Suzuki's in my life but never a KQ model so I don't know too much about them. Are they really that good? Better trail bike than the Can AM?
 

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Maybe he's paid more by Suzuki to say that?

Opinions vary, but anyone can say their machine( or their preffered machine) is the best trail machine out there.

Nothing against Suzuki's, they are good machines, but i prefer my Can-am. Not just because i own one, but i wouldn't be on my second one if i didn't think they were the best.
 

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Nice looking ride but single cylinder and no power would keep me away. I have seen one in all my travels in the last 3 years, not a big seller around here.


 

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I've been watching some ATV Television shows lately and was quite surprised that the host of the show prefers the 750 KQ Suzuki over any other bike. He has lots of machines in his garage but the KQ is always the one he takes on his long trail ride shows. He loves it. When asked about Can Am's, he said they were nice bikes but not as well designed as the KQ.
I've owned four Suzuki's in my life but never a KQ model so I don't know too much about them. Are they really that good? Better trail bike than the Can AM?
All I have to say is BRING IT! trail, no-trail, up hill, sideways, in the air, in the mud, on the rocks and on the quarter mile! I say line up that Scrapazuki and we'll see who's machine is better. lol:aniwheeler6:

The suzuki does have a softer suspension making the slower riding much smoother. for one I find this affects the ground clearance too much because when you hit the throttle the back end squats right down and also affect your handling and the bike also tends to nose dive under heavy braking and cornering. I like the stiffer Can-Am suspension myself.
 

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If you watch some past ATVtv episodes, Doug states that he has had the hardest time in getting ca-ams to evaluate, with Suzuki being the easiest.

Suzuki makes a nice ATV, but the ones in my club are modified heavily, suspension, ecu, clutch, regulator, tps, and the typical misc mods.
 

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If you watch some past ATVtv episodes, Doug states that he has had the hardest time in getting ca-ams to evaluate, with Suzuki being the easiest.
Yeah I saw that. He also told me that there are no plans to do a show on the Outtie 1000 any time soon.:sad:
 

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No offence but if he WANTS to ride the KQ the most, Can Am might think he would hurt himself on the 1000, heh heh heh.
 

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Maybe he's paid more by Suzuki to say that?

Opinions vary, but anyone can say their machine( or their preffered machine) is the best trail machine out there.

Nothing against Suzuki's, they are good machines, but i prefer my Can-am. Not just because i own one, but i wouldn't be on my second one if i didn't think they were the best.

He claims to be "non-sponsored" by any brand and I might just believe that because he does always give the good and the bad news about each bike he's testing.

His "bad news" about the Can Am was that it lacked a "real locker", had single lever brakes, the foot brake had no feeling to it, and they (the 800r G1) run very warm. The KQ has none of those problems and is thousands less $$. I couldn't argue with him there but I told him that they have doubled the radiator size for the 1000 and G2's!
 

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I love my outlander......but I have always heard when it comes to a single cylinder utility quad, suzuki has the best one out there. In fact I hear those 750's run pretty damn good for a 1 lunger!
 

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I have a 2009 Outtie 800R XT, but still have my first ride a 2008 KQ 450. Suzuki in my estimation is one of the most underated ATV manufacturers out there.

When you actually compare features versus cost I think they may have all of them beat as "Best Value" out there. The reliability seems good as well. For a trail riding, comfortable machine they are tough to beat?

Now this doesn't mean they are the best ATV out there, as you have to match the machine to the rider's wish list. If they made a twin cylnder rotax powered monster like CanAm my purchase decision may have taken longer than 5 minutes............lol

**and to boot they are sort of manufactured in the US, well assembled anyway................**
 

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Prsonally not a fan of them at all. My bro ha an 09 and while it was fairly reliable, driving it was another story. At the time I had an 09 grizzly and both of us way preferred the grizz to the kq. And the suspension on it wasn't that soft either, I though it was quite rough, no give in the rea at all. It was the front that would flop all over.
 

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They probably are a really nice ATV, however, they are all nice as of late (With the exception of the Chinese ones, lol). I just think a single cylinder should stay in the 500 class. Yes, they are good, but I'm all set with the KQ and the simplicity of it. The dealers up here in NH still have 09's in the showroom. One of the salesman told me that they can't give them away at cost. LOL
 

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Prsonally not a fan of them at all. My bro ha an 09 and while it was fairly reliable, driving it was another story. At the time I had an 09 grizzly and both of us way preferred the grizz to the kq. And the suspension on it wasn't that soft either, I though it was quite rough, no give in the rea at all. It was the front that would flop all over.

That's interesting. The host of the show said that the KQ was basically the same bike as the Grizz but with a smoother, taller-geared engine that ran at slightly less RPM throughout and thus saved a little more gas. I, on the other hand, have a friend who just bought a 700 Griz with power steering and I thought it rode really nice and was geared really well too. But I haven't ridden the KQ to compare to.
 

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Own a grizzly and have ridden a friends KQ, they are very similar in design and ride.
 

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. One of the salesman told me that they can't give them away at cost. LOL
Yeah, that's the really appealing part of it! I'll bet if you sweet talked an overstocked dealer, you could probably gotd with one for $6500. Might almost be able to buy two for the price of one Outlander 1000!
 

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Own a grizzly and have ridden a friends KQ, they are very similar in design and ride.

Would you say that the King Quad's engine is a bit smoother?
The one I rode had a VDI ecu, which made a huge improvement, it is smoother than the grizzly but noisier.

Also with the clutch mods and vdi, much faster than grizzly 700, and closer than I would have thought against my outlander 800
 

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The one I rode had a VDI ecu, which made a huge improvement, it is smoother than the grizzly but noisier.

Also with the clutch mods and vdi, much faster than grizzly 700, and closer than I would have thought against my outlander 800

So how would you rate the KQ and your Outlander in overall design on a scale of 1 to 10?
 

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So far no ATV is a 10.

I've owned Honda, Polaris, can-am, Yamaha, and have had an opportunity to ride many of our local club members' rides, which includes every brand except kymco. Yes have used a Qlink brand.

The weakness of the can-am are well overshadowed by its strengths. I would rate the models as follows:

400-500: 5
650-800: 6
Xt models: 7
Xxc and xmr: 8

Mod the clutch, cool the engine, strengthen frame and after market suspension: 9
To make it a 10, new a arms to adjust camber & caster, 4 wheel front and back separately controlled brakes, new ecu, and for a bonus a way to manually lock dif

Kq base would be about a 6, tweak out at 8, with the single lung being the bottleneck
I would rate my grizzly slightly less 5.8 to 7.8, with primary differentiator being the grizzly having much softer metal frame than the kq
 

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I did give an 09 Suki 750 KQ with EPS a try a couple years ago, I owned it about 6 months total, put maybe 500-800 miles on it before I sold it. By comparison it probably is one of the better single cyl models out there.
But by general comparison to Can-am or Polaris its technology is a little behind the curve.

Suki sales were way off and if not mistake they pretty much took about a year off from building quads, to allow dealers to try and sell off what they had.

Some of the reasons I sold mine were lacking comfort by comparison, power was sub par compared to my other twin powered machines of similar and less displacement. Tall and just not all that stable in off camber situation, I never rolled it, just always felt on verge of rolling it when comparied to my Can-am or Polaris quads.

If I were to recomend a machine in this price class, with similar horse power numbers to the 750 KQ, with more features, and great value, I would say look at a Can-am 500 XT. I am not saying that because I am in a Can-am forum either, I recomend that same model in Polaris forums as well.

The Outlander 500XT is a Very solid value, still has a V-twin, has very stable handeling, ultra smooth ride, way smoother then the KQ, I believe the Can-am 500 puts off a little less heat then some of the larger bore versions. with less vibration do to the very well balanced V-twin. The hp I believe is still slightly greater then the suki 750's hp numbers. I believe price is also very comprable.

I know many people just look at the CCs pictured on the sticker, but in reality that is not a good measure of a machines real world performance. Take the Artice cat 1000 it made less power then the Can-am 800 and Polaris 850s. Then there is the Honda Rincon 700(680cc) it performs like many others on the markets 400-450cc class machines.

If ultimate power is not the ultimate quest, my top value pic on the market is the Can-am 500XT.

If max comfort is the top prioity then my pic is the Polaris 850 Sportsman.

If ultimate power is the top priority then my pic is simply the Outlander 1000.

None of the Japan mfgs seem to understand stabilty, comfort, power and modern ATV conviences the way Can-am and Polaris do.

I have owned or at least rode all the top models from all the major mfgs and the Japan brands just don't seem to be on par with the North American brands.
 
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