A knocking sound appeared in the new 2024 Outlander XTP 1000 T3 engine. It's been running for only 11 hours. The dealer says it's normal. All the latest models of this series have this issue. The manufacturer changed something during assembly. The old models didn't have this issue. The engines worked without this noise. I don't like it. The noise appears after the engine heats up. It works fine when cold. What could it be and is it a manufacturing defect? What would you advise? I'll try to upload a video to clearly show how the engine works. There's a noise somewhere on the right side, where the cylinders are located. This issue has been discussed here before.
A knocking sound in the new Outlander 1000 XTP T3 engine.
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I'm not an additive guy by any means BUT:
MOA is good stuff. My son works for Toyota and has sent me lots of pictures of engine internals of MOA vehicles and non-MOA vehicles.
I have a shelf of it here but was never sure of the use ratio in these bikes.
@ Cummins67 - Do you have any insight on how much to add? Half or a quarter can maybe?
Got to love BG stuff
MOA is good stuff. My son works for Toyota and has sent me lots of pictures of engine internals of MOA vehicles and non-MOA vehicles.
I have a shelf of it here but was never sure of the use ratio in these bikes.
@ Cummins67 - Do you have any insight on how much to add? Half or a quarter can maybe?
Got to love BG stuff
B G products. MOA.
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that is all I have ever done. I have been happy with Amsoil ATV oil.
Yes -BG "MOA"
Like i said - I'm not an additive guy but that is good stuff.
Pricey but good
They make a fuel additive also, K22, I think it's called.
Seeing pictures off the top end, head off, and very little carbon made me consider.
Just saying
Like i said - I'm not an additive guy but that is good stuff.
Pricey but good
They make a fuel additive also, K22, I think it's called.
Seeing pictures off the top end, head off, and very little carbon made me consider.
Just saying
I only add oil to the oil.
I heard a disturbing knock on my last ride. My visor was cracked open one notch and engine noise reverberated in my helmet. There was no knocking sound when the visor was closed nor when it was fully open. The knocking sound only occurred when the visor was cracked open by one notch.
My conclusion was that the noise came from the intake. Pistons gulping air can make a knocking mechanical sound. Anyways that's my story and I am sticking to it.
My conclusion was that the noise came from the intake. Pistons gulping air can make a knocking mechanical sound. Anyways that's my story and I am sticking to it.
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Brand new old stock 24 850 here and I have the knock. Its in the shop now for the knock and some weird kind of drive clunk when I brake into a corner and gas out it clunk/knocks real hard like a big rock hitting the under of the frame. Have no idea what that is and I am so sick of the bike after only 3 weeks of ownership. Twice in the shop in 3 weeks. Thicker oil made the engine knock worse.
Did anyone get an answer from the dealer shop yet? Its been 1yr since post.
Did anyone get an answer from the dealer shop yet? Its been 1yr since post.
The clunk when you decelerate then give it throttle is the secondary clutch . It is normal but I try to be smooth on the throttle so not beat the rollers to death. Google the QRS can am secondary clunk.
The noise mine made since new is not a knock. It’s a loud ticking noise. Mine was a left over 23. I started a brand new 24 850 at the dealership and it made the exact same noise. My 1000 renegade makes basically the same noise only far quieter. As stated. I use can am 10-50 oil change kit and a half can of BG MOA and change it every 500 miles. Noise is still exactly the same and absolutely nothing on the magnetic drain plug and I cut the filter open in the sunlight. Absolutely spotless. No metal specs at all. It now has 2,200 miles on it and no problem. I did have it back to the dealer at first and they said the noise was normal. I didn’t believe them until I started the new one on the show room floor. For some reason the 850 makes far more valve train noise the the 1000 does. I can confirm that by comparing my 1000 and two other buddies that have 1000 machines. Hopefully this helps. I don’t like how loud the 850 is but it is what it is. Runs great though.
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Problem is....NO ONE would buy it with a rod knock noise. Dealer trade is half what I paid 3 weeks ago so either way I am . Mine is not a tick its a loud hard knock just like a rod knock. The 10-50 oem oil made it louder. My noise didn't start until 10hrs over 120 miles. If it was normal it would have had it brand new, which it didn't.
I believe Can-am has bots telling everyone the noises the machine makes is normal so they don't go out of business fixing broken machines.
Have you sent a sample of your oil to Blackstone Labs for analysis? Eye-balling oil won't tell you much unless you have 1/4" chunks of metal.
I have owned many different makes of bikes, quads, snow machines, jet skis and not a one of them made any of the noises this thing makes. So disappointing!
I agree with your
I understand what you are saying. I would try a different dealer. My noise is normal as I have been able to compare it to several machines. It definitely is not a knock. I pour the used oil through tight cloth that is white and I put a clean magnet in the oil as well. No metal. I wish you good luck.
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OK back from second dealer (biggest one in 300 miles).
All sounds "NORMAL"
So now I have to either sell it, ride it and wait for it to break or buy insurance and wait for it to break or not.
I have over 50 years of working on mechanical things I own under my belt. I can tell you a knock, not present at new, that only does it hot, after sitting, is NOT normal. I am going to put some miles on it and send off an oil sample to Blackstone labs for analysis. They can tell if there is an issue by determining what metals are found in the oil.
I guess the next thing is how it will sound at -20f this winter when I plow.
Oh and the dealer said the knock was injector knock.
Can someone tell me why it would only do it hot and after sitting for 30-45mins?
All sounds "NORMAL"
So now I have to either sell it, ride it and wait for it to break or buy insurance and wait for it to break or not.
I have over 50 years of working on mechanical things I own under my belt. I can tell you a knock, not present at new, that only does it hot, after sitting, is NOT normal. I am going to put some miles on it and send off an oil sample to Blackstone labs for analysis. They can tell if there is an issue by determining what metals are found in the oil.
I guess the next thing is how it will sound at -20f this winter when I plow.
Oh and the dealer said the knock was injector knock.
Can someone tell me why it would only do it hot and after sitting for 30-45mins?
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