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Clutch sounds like it's got a bag of marbles in it

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I was out having a great time in Windrock. Told Travis 'race ya to the creek' and let him go first. Was hot on his heels and as he went wide in a corner I took the inside. Off trail, but rideable. Was hammering the bike it's true and it was rough as can be, but the suspension was soaking it up and the bike felt like it was on rails. Made a clean pass and left him eating my dust. :D

Shortly thereafter it started making a horrible noise. I stopped, looked for something caught in the tires, axles, etc. Nothing.

Traced it to the clutch. Sounds like someone poured a bag of marbles in there. Horrible sounding. It functions just fine, sounds horrible.

Limped it to the creek, hung out a bit, decided that rather than risk more damage we'd drag it home.

Since we were on the backside of Windrock, this was no easy task. Dragged it a ways, but this was a heck of a task for the other outlander, these things are heavy.

So we gave up, fired it up and drove real slow all the way back to camp.

It works just fine, just the sounds coming from under the cover are not anything you'd want your bike making.

No swivel in my toolkit and BRP has made accessing the clutch on these about impossible even with a swivel. So I loaded it up on the trailer.

I'm thinking one of two things. Either the belt is breaking and has frayed and is slapping the cover with the fray or one of the flywheight bolts has come out and is rattling around in there.

FYI this is a VforceJohn primary, stock secondary and Mav belt, with all of about 100 miles on them.

Whatcha think I'm gonna find when I pull the cover off?
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I'd guess belt is coming apart, otherwise, hard to guess.
if its a "clunk" sound id guess its a shredded belt. but if its a "clanging" sound, like metal on metal, then..... uh oh.
Sounds a lot like my garbage disposal did when a screw fell in and rattled around for a while until I went fishing w/ a flashlight.
I doubt its a shredded belt then. But I hope it is just that man.
I was out having a great time in Windrock. Told Travis 'race ya to the creek' and let him go first. Was hot on his heels and as he went wide in a corner I took the inside. Off trail, but rideable. Was hammering the bike it's true and it was rough as can be, but the suspension was soaking it up and the bike felt like it was on rails. Made a clean pass and left him eating my dust. :D

Shortly thereafter it started making a horrible noise. I stopped, looked for something caught in the tires, axles, etc. Nothing.

Traced it to the clutch. Sounds like someone poured a bag of marbles in there. Horrible sounding. It functions just fine, sounds horrible.

Limped it to the creek, hung out a bit, decided that rather than risk more damage we'd drag it home.

Since we were on the backside of Windrock, this was no easy task. Dragged it a ways, but this was a heck of a task for the other outlander, these things are heavy.

So we gave up, fired it up and drove real slow all the way back to camp.

It works just fine, just the sounds coming from under the cover are not anything you'd want your bike making.

No swivel in my toolkit and BRP has made accessing the clutch on these about impossible even with a swivel. So I loaded it up on the trailer.

I'm thinking one of two things. Either the belt is breaking and has frayed and is slapping the cover with the fray or one of the flywheight bolts has come out and is rattling around in there.

FYI this is a VforceJohn primary, stock secondary and Mav belt, with all of about 100 miles on them.

Whatcha think I'm gonna find when I pull the cover off?
1000 vs 800 Haha I let you pass or it would have been more than a belt to fix, you should have mentioned that we where sideways and your tires are taller than my outty. But a wins a win
Had a great weekend at windrock hope you get you're bike fixed!
Rematch lol:th_smiliefrustrated
Welp, got the clutch cover off (after much cursing at the BRP engineers who made one bolt impossible to get at.)

I see no signs of any damage other than the belt itself. It discarded the outter ribs on about half the belt.

Looked thru everything carefully, no hardware or screws were found.

Still need to disassemble them and give them a good cleaning, but my initial inspection shows nothing but a blown belt.

No clue why this Mav belt died in 100+ miles.
Check the vent tubes to make sure they aren't plugged with belt debris or something else. May have gotten hot .
Welp, got the clutch cover off (after much cursing at the BRP engineers who made one bolt impossible to get at.
Its a 8mm or 5/16" bolt. Use a ratcheting box end wrench..there's a square hole cut in the belly plate and you pass the end of the wrench up thru there from underneath. Jacking up the machine about a foot or so on the left side makes it easier..ONLY about 100-120 "quarter throw" cranks on the wrench will do it. ;-:)th_smiliepullhair:
Check the vent tubes to make sure they aren't plugged with belt debris or something else. May have gotten hot .
How 'hot' should it get? It's uncomfortable on my ankle 'hot'. Not burning, but def uncomfortable.
Are you running screens in your snorkels? Lose 'em if you are.
Are you running screens in your snorkels? Lose 'em if you are.
yes
Cover shouldn't be warmer than your ankle can comfortably touch in most circumstances. And if you are wearing proper riding gear it won't matter anyway.
I'm wearing waders. Wonder what would cause it to run hot...
...snorkel screens? really?

This definitely the cause of the blown belt?
I'm wearing waders. Wonder what would cause it to run hot...
...snorkel screens? really?

This definitely the cause of the blown belt?
I had the screens in mine from syatv and ended up cutting them out. The engine and belt intake were constantly getting debris in them and the cvt exhaust kept clogging up with fine belt dust on the inside. Pretty much have to take them out and clean them every ride if you want to keep em. Wasn't worth it to me so just removed the screen.
Thanks Scott, will pull them out.

Busco Beach this weekend...

You still stateside?
Sorry man I'm back in the sandbox till at least end of July.
welp, didn't pull them out, but after a short putt (going quite slow) I checked the exhaust screen. Completely blocked. Cleaned it out and put it back. Checked a little later, completely blocked again.

Pocket knife time, screen gone.

Also talked to MrRPM. Nice guy. He told me to get rid of them, that these machines need a lot of cooling and the screens only hamper that.
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