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Digitally Encoded Security System (D.E.S.S.)

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what the heck is the, Digitally Encoded Security System (D.E.S.S.), from can-am? and how does it work? sounds cool and i want one, cause you know i leave my atv in the front yard with the key in it? :th_smiliewoo: nottt! haha

but seriously what is it and how does it work, might be an advantage.
 
#2 ·
D.e.s.s.

The computer that runs the whole system cannot be accessed without the chip. the chip is in the key. without the chip, you will not get anything to happen. You can't bypass the system (i.e. hotwire), and without the engine on, you can't put it in neutral. So no easy way to just push it away, load it, or otherwise make it disappear. (As with every security system, it's not foolproof, just very effective.)
If it does get taken, any attempt to buy a new key requires a hook up into the B.U.D.S. system to make a new one with a chip. Hook it into the system and it tells the dealer who the owner is, if it's been reported as stolen, etc.
 
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#4 ·
Hmmm.... I'm pretty sure ALL Can Am's come with it standard. I don't think it's an option....
 
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#6 ·
I took mine to the dealer and he put it from park, to neutral, without starting the motor. I've done it a couple times, mostly putting it from neutral to park. All without the motor running, nor the electronics.

Prolly not too good for it tho :/
 
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#8 ·
Mine can go from neutral to park and back all day. And any real theifs can bypass the DESS. Im not theif and would never steal anything but I can get past the security to steal the bike without cutting wires or anything to mess up the bike.
 
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#9 ·
hmmm.... I've never forced mine out of gear, but I suppose it can be done. And yes, there is no foolproof security system. "Locks only keep honest people honest."
 
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#10 ·
If you rock the atv ever so slightly it changes gears without the key just fine. Without any force what so ever. I don't think the DEss does anything with the gears ... Probably just does not let it start.
 
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#13 ·
From what the dealer told me, the computer is useless without the key unless the thief has the ability to program a new one. Once the dealership has been notified of the theft, they log it into a data base which raises a red flag should someone come in to get it keyed. I was also told the dealership will not work on any ATV that is missing the VIN. Obviously, this won't stop a thief from taking the ATV and parting it out. But, it's better than nothing.
 
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#14 ·
But who needs a dealership to do work? Many of us do our own maintenance and work if something breaks.
 
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#15 ·
how would you bypass it my key broke off in my ignition and as of right now i don't have enough money to buy a new key and new ignition and to get them to put it on because i have absolutely no idea how to do that and im new to all this soo... but can anyone help me figure out how to bypass it
 
#16 ·
Lookin to steal a machine, are ya? ;)
 
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#17 ·
You just made a thread about you got a new machine....is it stolen?!
 
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#19 ·
Well the chip is on the key itself so if its still in there a screw driver is all that is needed to turn it on.. Its just like a modern day car with a chip in the key no way to start it unless the computer recognize the right code.. The dealer is the only way to reset it.. Unless you have the money to buy the b.u.d.s tool which if you have the money for that you sure have enough to buy a new ign
 
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#21 · (Edited)
But I assure you it's not stolen I'm still paying on it one of my friends bent the key when I first got it and then I dropped it and someone stepped on it and bent it again so I straightened it out and then it finally broke and I've tried turning the ignition with a screw driver but it still wouldn't start I realize now that asking that question would make yall think it's stolen I didn't think about that before I posted it
 
#22 ·
Did your bike only come with one key?

If you use a couple of dental tools, you should be able to grasp the broken end and pull it out. Then you should be able to get a new key programmed at the dealer when you get enough money together. The ignition switch is probably ok.

AFAIK, there is no way to bypass the DESS.
 
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#23 ·
If I ever find a way to bypass it, I will just so I don't have to deal with the "key not recognized" message anymore!!!! You would think that it could be done with a reflash or with BUDS Megatech or something!
 
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#27 ·
Hahaha. Might as well replace it with a toggle switch if you go that extreme. I don't want any idiot with a Can Am key riding off with my bike. I'm just tired of dealing with bad or dirty contacts and replacing ignition switches. None of my other bikes have chips in the keys, but the keys are unique. My Grizzly 550 key won't start my 700.
 
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#30 ·
I'm aware of that - full coverage insurance! Lets at least make them push it tho vs starting it up and riding off. :aniwheeler6:
 
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#32 ·
So at that point I could replace the ignition switch and key with one from another manufacturer? Like what is on my Grizzly for example?
 
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#35 · (Edited)
If the ignition switch internal contacts that connect the chip in the key to the ECU cannot make good contact, the message " key not recognized" will scroll across the display and the bike will not start.
 
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#36 ·
Note to self: Do not lose key unless you want to be stranded. Dealer cannot program new key without also having ATV. New key costs about $225 dollars if I remember my dealer delivery spiel.

So, after taking delivery I promptly put one of those flexible coiled things (like those safety harnesses on personal watercraft you put on your wrist that go to the kill switch) and attached it to my key and then to one of the wiring harnesses under the left hand handle bar with a carabiner.
It makes it easy to take off after I ride but keeps the key from coming out accidently when I am out riding.

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