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TFI GEN 2

Is this the simplest way to go? I am looking for a controller for dumbies so to speak. Just want to put a slip on exhaust and go. Will I need to adjust anything with this one or is it setup perfectly for just a slip on? Just looking for better rumble no so much performance. 1000 XT has plenty of power for me already.

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I have one

I had my local dealer set it up but he told me he had to set up on laptop and do a bunch of adjustments. Sorry I could not be more help but I have been told they must be set up.
 

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If you order an exhaust with a programmer package, it's most likely going to be a relabeled Dobeck that's set up for the exhaust you purchase. Google search vForcejohn. He sells muzzy exhausts with tuners already set to go. Just plug and play. You can still tweak the tune in the future if you decide to add other things looking for more power.


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Yep if you want to be a dummy and get a good exhaust at a great price call VFJ. Muzzy pipes and tuners already set up to go.
 

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The dobeck tuners all come preset with what is considered "stage 1" programming. High flow air filter and slip-on exhaust. The TFI is the most basic of programmers and I would recommend going to the gen 3.5 EJK at a minimum so you have the ability to add and subtract fuel as needed. If you email Dobeck with a little info they will extend a nice forum discount to you that you can use at any dealer, like us. The 3.5 retails at $225 shipped in the states. Usually a 10-15% discount for forum members after you jump a couple hoops. Even better of you are military.
 

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Stage 1 as mentioned gives you this control on a dobeck 3.5
Green Mode: -10% to +20%
Yellow Mode: -10% to +20%
Red Mode: -10% to +20%
As there is 16 increments in fuel adjustment in each mod gives an accuracy of 1.875% which isn't too bad for fuel control accuracy but will only be good for exhaust and intake, Big bore kits, cams and headwork will need more then +20% fuel control, you then need to have a dealer reprogram or send the dobeck off to get reprogrammed for more fuel control, not very practical and can lead to down time and will cost additional money.
Now say you want +100% fuel control from your dobeck which both Monster products and Dynojet products offer that out of the box, so you send off your dobeck controller to dobeck to get reprogrammed and pay for shipping, you request that you want full fuel control of your programmer like the other manufacturers offer, they reprogram your fuel controller so you can adjust from -10% fuel and +100% fuel, so now you have 110% fuel control, great right? Wrong, that much control on a dobeck fuel controller gets you some crude 6.875% fuel adjustment every time you press the button in each mode, which results in poor AFR, lost HP, possible engine damage in high end builds. I've said it once and I will continue to say it, DOBECK is only accurate and good for exhaust and intake mods on a stock atv, anything more you need to look at other brands.
This is a case of you get what you pay for.
 

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Stage 1 as mentioned gives you this control on a dobeck 3.5
Green Mode: -10% to +20%
Yellow Mode: -10% to +20%
Red Mode: -10% to +20%
As there is 16 increments in fuel adjustment in each mod gives an accuracy of 1.875% which isn't too bad for fuel control accuracy but will only be good for exhaust and intake, Big bore kits, cams and headwork will need more then +20% fuel control, you then need to have a dealer reprogram or send the dobeck off to get reprogrammed for more fuel control, not very practical and can lead to down time and will cost additional money.
Now say you want +100% fuel control from your dobeck which both Monster products and Dynojet products offer that out of the box, so you send off your dobeck controller to dobeck to get reprogrammed and pay for shipping, you request that you want full fuel control of your programmer like the other manufacturers offer, they reprogram your fuel controller so you can adjust from -10% fuel and +100% fuel, so now you have 110% fuel control, great right? Wrong, that much control on a dobeck fuel controller gets you some crude 6.875% fuel adjustment every time you press the button in each mode, which results in poor AFR, lost HP, possible engine damage in high end builds. I've said it once and I will continue to say it, DOBECK is only accurate and good for exhaust and intake mods on a stock atv, anything more you need to look at other brands.
This is a case of you get what you pay for.
Considering i am one that looks at opinions with those that have experience in tuners and used them, what would you suggest for someone that has an bbk and can't afford to jump from tuner to tuner to determine which is correct? Not only that, if one don't have an idea on what to look for on a tuner, then what? I would seem to think there are those that are die hard Dobeck, Power Commander, Bullydog, Moose, HMF, Dynojet, to mention some that would say that is the only way to go? What i have a fear of is messing up the engine and don't have the ability like most of you gents in knowing what to look for and what to do?
 

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Considering i am one that looks at opinions with those that have experience in tuners and used them, what would you suggest for someone that has an bbk and can't afford to jump from tuner to tuner to determine which is correct? Not only that, if one don't have an idea on what to look for on a tuner, then what? I would seem to think there are those that are die hard Dobeck, Power Commander, Bullydog, Moose, HMF, Dynojet, to mention some that would say that is the only way to go? What i have a fear of is messing up the engine and don't have the ability like most of you gents in knowing what to look for and what to do?

You're going to want to look at Monster Products. Best bet for you (judging from what I've researched so far) is a Fuel Monster or wait for the new Monster Power Tuner to come out. The MPT has added timing control over the FM. Another add on to consider for either tuner is dual auto tune. Takes the guess work out of tuning. Plus you can data log and get help and tunes via email.


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Considering i am one that looks at opinions with those that have experience in tuners and used them, what would you suggest for someone that has an bbk and can't afford to jump from tuner to tuner to determine which is correct? Not only that, if one don't have an idea on what to look for on a tuner, then what? I would seem to think there are those that are die hard Dobeck, Power Commander, Bullydog, Moose, HMF, Dynojet, to mention some that would say that is the only way to go? What i have a fear of is messing up the engine and don't have the ability like most of you gents in knowing what to look for and what to do?

You're going to want to look at Monster Products. Best bet for you (judging from what I've researched so far) is a Fuel Monster or wait for the new Monster Power Tuner to come out. The MPT has added timing control over the FM. Another add on to consider for either tuner is dual auto tune. Takes the guess work out of tuning. Plus you can data log and get help and tunes via email.


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Tks for input, currently i have an Dobeck Gen4 autotuner with this new 840cc build at which i think something isn't flying correctly? Not sure since i don't know what i am doing and what to look for? I've set the values at around 12.5 but on level one, it shows around 11.5 and was told to set to 13.5 to see if it would finally go to 12.5 but the build has around 15 miles on it and i only noticed this when it was only idling for about 10 mins so i am working with Dobeck on this when i go out on my next ride?
 

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Considering i am one that looks at opinions with those that have experience in tuners and used them, what would you suggest for someone that has an bbk and can't afford to jump from tuner to tuner to determine which is correct? Not only that, if one don't have an idea on what to look for on a tuner, then what? I would seem to think there are those that are die hard Dobeck, Power Commander, Bullydog, Moose, HMF, Dynojet, to mention some that would say that is the only way to go? What i have a fear of is messing up the engine and don't have the ability like most of you gents in knowing what to look for and what to do?

You're going to want to look at Monster Products. Best bet for you (judging from what I've researched so far) is a Fuel Monster or wait for the new Monster Power Tuner to come out. The MPT has added timing control over the FM. Another add on to consider for either tuner is dual auto tune. Takes the guess work out of tuning. Plus you can data log and get help and tunes via email.


I will be doing a MrRpm conversion from 650 to an 800 Big Bore Kit plus drop in cams. The Monster is sooo expensive. Is there another option? I have no problems welding in bungs for wide band sensors.
 
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