Why?

 

As asked why?? I would guess it's not possible as it would be an easy way to ppl to try and rip others off. Stating ur eng has less hours then it does is just robbery.

 

Yes, it can be done.
The question is why? This would be the same as rolling back one's odometer which is seen by most as illegal at worst and underhanded at the very least.

 

Like everyone else has asked, why?

 

Knowing that this is normal practice with motor swaps and rebuilds on boats, I can see where you may want to do this, however, in this application, it does make it appear that something shady may be going on. Probably not the best idea, even if you could do it.

Fortunately, you can not change engine hours, even with Megatech. If you want more info on what Megatech is capable of doing, check out the Megatech user manual. It is pretty interesting what it will allow. This is a direct copy and paste from a Megatech info page.

what is Megatech key ?

Megatech key is an advanced key wich opens up many features not available to the ordinary dealer!! , changing VIN numbers , disabling DESS theft systems and advanced diagnostics are just some of the things megatech opens that they don't want the ordinary dealer messing with!! megatech will also allow timing curve and rev limiter changes on some 2 stroke models
Megatech WILL NOT change fuel or timing maps on 4 tec applications nor will it change total run hours on any product.
Megatech Key Features:

1. Changing the VIN, MODEL
2. Advanced settings
3. View History in hours, rather than percentage
4. Enabling / Disabling DESS
5. Change the key type
6. Clearing history block ECM, MPEM
7. Cleaning unit ECM, MPEM, CLUSTER "as new"
8. View more information blocks
9. Installing Secure Code
10. Edit Timing curves for 2-Stroke vehicles

 

Dear all
i have a can am outlander 650 xt 2007 with 550 engine hours

i wonder if there is a way to restart the time hour or to recalibrate it to 100 hour ?
im open to suggestion on this case and it keeps my mind busy for a lot of time.
is anyone out there ever try to complete this task ?
if yes pls contect me ASAP!!!!

You can not turn the hour back. You can move it FORWARD though. But then when you go to sell the bike it will show more hours on the engine than there are. You will find that most people have an average speed of 15 MPH if you de vide the miles by the hours.

As I recall if you leave the key on but do not start the engine the clock will keep running. But this may have been changed also.

 

Just hear me out

Dear Outlander colleagues,
i can assure you that illegal stuff or robbing someone has nothing to do to my question !!!!
Im a mechanical engineer and im testing the the behavior of the ATV's engine and some function rely to that e.g in order to optimize the fuel consumption at high RPM.
in addition i'm doing some experiments on the bike
it will be very helpful for me to solve this equation :tools1:
pls do you best to help me in finding the solution !
as before i'm open to suggestion and creative mind

 

Sounds fishy to me. Why does it matter for your "experiments" that the hour meter be turned back?

 

Don't see a need to turn the hours back for any experiment, simply record the current hours, and some simple math afterward will you the exact same results..

 

I can't ever think of any reason whatsoever to tamper with mileage or hours! No logic to your question!

 

We've heard you out, but none of us can puzzle together a real reason of why you'd need to mess with the engine hours. Sorry.

 

Gotta throw the BS flag on this one!

 

Hi guys,
instead of accusing we better sharing if anyone have the relevant information it will be great if not don't try to look for bad stuff,
let me share it with you all,
I'm trying to develop a specific chip.
one of its function is to add better and long life for the combustion chamber by adding lubrication from the engine oil reserve. One of my problem is the control signal that the main comp is sending e.g 1001 – 4 digit number that can be debug to various signals in micro-chip
Now the signal is being transfer from the head microchip through the electronically cared, but im getting different signals when the transfer to my micro whene i have more than 3 digit No but 0&100 and 2 digit number (when 0 is first it is not a 3 digit No.) are not sending back fuels signals and they send the original one that sent from the new control it is probably due the connection to the length of the instant memory of the micro.
Can someone help ?

 

Hi gays,
instead of accusing we better sharing if anyone have the relevant information it will be great if not don't try to look for bad stuff,
let me share it with you all,
I'm trying to develop a specific chip.
one of its function is to add better and long life for the combustion chamber by adding lubrication from the engine oil reserve. One of my problem is the control signal that the main comp is sending e.g 1001 – 4 digit number that can be debug to various signals in micro-chip
Now the signal is being transfer from the head microchip through the electronically cared, but im getting different signals when the transfer to my micro whene i have more than 3 digit No but 0&100 and 2 digit number (when 0 is first it is not a 3 digit No.) are not sending back fuels signals and they send the original one that sent from the new control it is probably due the connection to the length of the instant memory of the micro.
Can someone help ?

Please explain to me why engine hours would make any difference! What you posted makes no sense. You may want to consult an electrical engineer. :thumbsmilie:

 

check out brpbuds.com they have all the tools to do anything electronic, but your experiment is gonna cost ya if you don't already have the scanner. As for why? I really don't give a Sh@t... its your wheeler...

 

If you're already that deep into the programming and also in the business of building chips, Why don't you just scrap the OEM ECU and build your own ECU and program it yourself? Then you can program it to do anything you want and won't have the limitations BRP programs into theirs.

 

as i stated before i'm a mechanical engineer and my major was in control i'm not a software engineer.if i just can't have a solution to this problem we can all be benefit from that

 

If you're already that deep into the programming and also in the business of building chips, Why don't you just scrap the OEM ECU and build your own ECU and program it yourself? Then you can program it to do anything you want and won't have the limitations BRP programs into theirs.

as i stated before i'm a mechanical engineer and my major was in control i'm not a software engineer.if i just can't have a solution to this problem we can all be benefit from that

Hire someone that can do it then. If what your saying is true, you will need someone on staff that can do that work for you eventually anyway. I still don't understand what mileage has to do with it. If it only works if the computer thinks there is 100 miles on it, how is that going to help any of us??? Besides, if it works at 100 miles it should work at 1000 or 10000 miles just the same.

 

You need someone knowledgeable of binary coding. I have enough knowledge of it to recognize what it is and why they use it, but that is about it. Good luck!

 

thanks pal your help was most appreciated.
i saw your youtube channel very impressive stuff nice bikes !!!

does someone else have a territorial clip for this case ?

 

I finally understand the explanation I think, but you are way beyond the expertise of any one who has answered you so far. I am understanding that the hour meter info stream has other streams piggybacked on it enabling separate information to run in the same stream/signal. You are trying to add in your own signal to cotrol the oil reservoir and there's too many digits for the chip to process. Resetting the hour meter to zero or disabling it would reduce the number of digits in the signal allowing the chip's instant memory to keep up.
There would be no way to disable the hour meter because it's a function of the chip simply being on (having power). It looks like brp has programmed the chip to prevent what you're doing by limiting the digits in the data stream.
Being in this deep you need an electrical engineer? /Computer programmer? To reverse engineer brp's chip and make changes to allow for more digits in the data stream.

 

I finally realized the basic idea of what he is trying to do just before my last post. Changing the mileage isn't his goal, but rather the key to "open the door". But like you said... It is WAY beyond my abilities!

 

Why not try to modify your system so it can be run as an add on controller using the info u need by piggybacking the sensors themselves and leaving the chip alone?

 

An EE that works for Dell designing their microprocessors would be nice right now.

In college, I once programmed and wired up a microprocessor chip to simulate a traffic signal red light. That was fun!

My first thought is every micro chip has a certain number of inputs and outputs, which are used for binary data streams. You can make one with 4, 8,16, etc. The only way to increase the number is to physically change the chip. A chip that has 8 outputs can only output 8 binary digits at one time.

My guess is that unless BRP gives you a replacement chip to allow for expanded signal processing, your cookie jar is full.