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Front wheel negative camber?

8.3K views 37 replies 7 participants last post by  Ducvet  
#1 ·
Hello,
On my Bombardier Traxter 500 XT I noticed that the front wheels have a negative angle when viewed from the front? Even the right one is a little higher than the left one. It wasn't like that a year ago. There is no gap anywhere, everything in on place.
Like on the car drawing, but not quite this much. Has anyone had this problem?
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#13 ·
You need to place a floor jack directly under the A-arm as close to the lower ball joint and lift the front wheel off the ground, then grab the top and bottom of the wheel and check for any movement or play.

Lifting directly under the A-arm simulates the wheel and suspension under a normal load and will expose any wheel bearing or suspension issues.
 
#21 ·
If the springs lose preload or are no longer supporting the front end it would cause the machine to sag as it was overloaded. Since there have been other complaints of the front shock lower spring perch failures It seemed reasonable.

I assume this is something that happened suddenly ?
 
#23 ·
Did this happen before or after you changed the front end parts?

Have you put a straight edge on the arms to check for bends?

Any of the arm mounts (frame) worn?
A slight bit of wear and you would see a large change at the opposite end near the wheel.

If you loosen the arm bolts can you move the hub back to zero with the play when loose?
 
#24 ·
Did this happen before or after you changed the front end parts?

Have you put a straight edge on the arms to check for bends?

Any of the arm mounts (frame) worn?
A slight bit of wear and you would see a large change at the opposite end near the wheel.

If you loosen the arm bolts can you move the hub back to zero with the play when loose?
Yes, there were before replacement parts, but I wasn't really interested. Now I decided to see what the problem is. The upper and lower arms are fine and not distorted.
Tomorrow I will check this - If you loosen the arm bolts can you move the hub back to zero with the play when loose?
 
#30 ·
It doesn't look like the lower arm has been removed and cleaned where it attaches to the frame like the upper one has . Did you remove all 4 A arms and inspect / replace bushings ? Are the holes wallowed out ?
The lowers always get the most abuse .
 
#32 ·
I removed lower arm. Everything is fine, there is a little tolerance on the frame bolts, but it is normal for the bolt to go through. I give up, because I don't see the logic of what could be. The wheels are still at an litle angle.
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#33 · (Edited)
I removed lower arm. Everything is fine, there is a little tolerance on the frame bolts, but it is normal for the bolt to go through. I give up, because I don't see the logic of what could be. The wheels are still at an litle angle.
I can understand your frustration. And others trying to help without being hands on is just as frustrating on our end. But as frustrating as it is, we must solve this mystery!
Looking through your earlier photos, i did see the new top ball joints, but the lowers appear to be original?
Worn lower ball joints will usually show wear by doing a simple test if you feel like continuing.
Fully assemble the vehicle and place back on a hard level surface, place a jack under the lower ball joint nut and lift the tire off the ground a couple of inches.
Facing the wheel, place a long pry bar and a block of wood just under the wheel and and lift up and down on the wheel while looking and feeling for any movement out of the lower ball joint.
If no movement is felt, then remove the jack from the ball joint area and place the jack under the vehicle frame (not the A arm) lifting the wheel off the ground and repeat the pry bar method.
Basically... if the lower ball joint is worn, it will allow the bottom of the wheel to lean outward giving the top of the wheel a negative camber appearance.

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#36 ·
I wouldwant toknow where the problem is before modifying parts to get where you want to be. Clearly something is off and if you modify the part but where the real problem shows up later you now need to fix the part you modified too. If you go back to when the machine did NOT have this issue think if there was any change,crash or repair to the area.
 
#38 ·
Any chance of finding another traxter near you to compare dimensions?

If you suspect the upper arms then consider finding some used replacements if the costs are not too high. On ebay just now I see used upper A arms for $12.00-$150.00 and plenty of them, I would consider changing one at a time on the worst side. Obviously pick the best replacements but that does not mean they will cost $$
Look at the parts that are likely to cause the issue and start shopping with them. Buying ones with ball joints etc would be what I would be after and dont change them to rull everything on your machine in or out.
 
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