[OffGridIdaho]

OK I dropped the noisy pig off at the dealer this AM. Showed him 9 videos of every problem. Said they were all normal. Did not write any of my concerns on the paperwork. Not very hopeful how this is going to turn out.

I have a backup appt. at a much larger and staffed dealer for July 11. If this clown show doesnt fix the machine I will bring it to the other.

Question...

I called around to get quotes for an extended warranty. Every single dealer "tried" to up-sell me on better insurance then the BRP OEM warranty. When doing more research online the 3rd party warranty companies suck!!! They are cheap because they deny all big clams, and probably the small ones too.

No way I am going to lose sleep over a 3rd party warranty.
The best quote I got was $800 for a 3 year BRP best. Is that a good price?

Also I used a search engine to try and find a Grizzly 25 camo EPS and only 3 within 500 miles of me (all are over 400 miles away). Crap!

Is the BRP warranty any good or do they deny claims as well?
Can I find it cheaper?

 

[Chief...]

OK I dropped the noisy pig off at the dealer this AM. Showed him 9 videos of every problem. Said they were all normal. Did not write any of my concerns on the paperwork. Not very hopeful how this is going to turn out.

I have a backup appt. at a much larger and staffed dealer for July 11. If this clown show doesn't fix the machine I will bring it to the other.

Question...

I called around to get quotes for an extended warranty. Every single dealer "tried" to up-sell me on better insurance then the BRP OEM warranty. When doing more research online the 3rd party warranty companies suck!!! They are cheap because they deny all big clams, and probably the small ones too.

No F'ing way I am going to lose sleep over a 3rd party warranty.
The best quote I got was $800 for a 3 year BRP best. Is that a good price?

Also I used a search engine to try and find a Grizzly 25 camo EPS and only 3 within 500 miles of me (all are over 400 miles away). Crap!

Is the BRP warranty any good or do they deny claims as well?
Can I find it cheaper?

IMO all those extended warranty's suck. They are there to make money, not to make pay out's. But, for the warm and fuzzy feeling that your covered I would probably stick with the manufactor warranty and not some 3rd party warranty.

For $800 for 3 yrs, doesn't sound too bad. The last warranty that I got from BRP, I don't remember exactly what I paid, but I do recall that I only made one claim which they honored, but my brother who had the exact issue and didn't have any warranty took it in and they fixed his at not cost. So in hind sight, the only thing that I got out of that warranty was the "warm and fuzzy feeling" during the warranty period.

 

[Angore]

I bought my 3 year warranty for no other reason than the sales girl could sell icecubes in Antarctica . If it blows up , I'll fix it myself anyway 🤣👍

 

[Tozguy]

The way I see it is if the vehicle needs an extended warranty then I don’t want the vehicle.

 

[Rangemaster]

Just read this whole thread, made me think and go start my 850 up and let it run for 20 minutes and it makes all kinds of sounds. Rear end is quiet, but my exhaust is super load from the Looney Tune pipe. I think your bike is fine, get out and ride it. If something breaks its covered. Mine is a 2020 850 with 500 miles and I love riding it.

 

[OffGridIdaho]

The way I see it is if the vehicle needs an extended warranty then I don’t want the vehicle.

Thats how I feel too!

 

[OffGridIdaho]

Dealer just called, said no abnormal sounds. Said engine knock is clutch or timing chain. Said squeak is one way. Said rear end howl is straight gears, all normal.

I had them put 10-40 and drain the 0-40 out. I also listed the unit on Craigs for what I think I can get. Called around to about a dozen Yamaha dealers and found one that would give me 9k trade-in, most were 8k and one was 7k. So if I trade it in I am losing 6-8k dollars. Not good!. I will buy a warranty and ride it. I am leaving it up for sale and when it sells I will get a grizzly.

Spoke to the salesman and he was less then useless! Offered me, after much arm twisting, 7k for an atv he just sold me for much more, ! Told me to call service and work it out with them. So the dealer refuses to help in any way.
I am on my own.

From videos I watched the noises were coming from the one-way and the sprag clutch. Supposedly the VBX aftermarket one way bearing is good but the seals are crap. I don't know anything about the sprag. Do they make a better aftermarket for that?

Can I install a VBX and use OEM seals? It is really hard to shift right now.


I wish Honda would make a CVT unit instead of the herky-jerky DCT.

 

[HpLander]

Sorry to hear that you are not happy with yours machine. I came to Can-Am from Polaris camp, both brands have their own things but Outlander serves my needs better, especially it has a real engine 😆🤣

Anyway, mine CVT howls too when in neutral, i did clean CVT and regreased one way bearing (with wrong grease, Redline CV-2) but nothing changed, still feels and sounds same.

Gear change, not so smooth and "one finger" usable as in 570 Polaris.
But i replaced the plastic mount to alloy one, changed gear oil to Amsoil 75W-140 and it has improved a bit. Some times it goes to "not this time bloke" mode and you need to do the "rain dance" 🤭 but still had improved slowly.

Yours is brand new like mine was, well mine was 50h old but anyway, i think it just needs a bit of hours and gear changes and then a fluid change.

Rear end noice, i have a spiral gears on rear diff so can not tell what is noisy and what is not. Front diff has straight cut on mine so when in 4wd it will make more whining noise on higher speeds.

 

[OffGridIdaho]

Sorry to hear that you are not happy with yours machine. I came to Can-Am from Polaris camp, both brands have their own things but Outlander serves my needs better, especially it has a real engine 😆🤣

Anyway, mine CVT howls too when in neutral, i did clean CVT and regreased one way bearing (with wrong grease, Redline CV-2) but nothing changed, still feels and sounds same.

Gear change, not so smooth and "one finger" usable as in 570 Polaris.
But i replaced the plastic mount to alloy one, changed gear oil to Amsoil 75W-140 and it has improved a bit. Some times it goes to "not this time bloke" mode and you need to do the "rain dance" 🤭 but still had improved slowly.

Yours is brand new like mine was, well mine was 50h old but anyway, i think it just needs a bit of hours and gear changes and then a fluid change.

Rear end noice, i have a spiral gears on rear diff so can not tell what is noisy and what is not. Front diff has straight cut on mine so when in 4wd it will make more whining noise on higher speeds.

Does yours have a knocking sound that comes from the engine when parked hot and started 20-30 mins later? Mine knocks and then goes away as it oils up or idles for 20 seconds.

 

[HpLander]

Does yours have a knocking sound that comes from the engine when parked hot and started 20-30 mins later? Mine knocks and then goes away as it oils up or idles for 20 seconds.

No, I haven't noticed that sound, i usually wear helmet and have some music playing so not 100% sure does it sound like that when starting a hot engine.

 

[First ATV]

Greetings .
Rear end should not howl.
Clutches can be noisy but not squeal .
205° is what it should be running at.
Some humping will be necessary in certain situations.

Welcome to the forum.

I agree 100% with Angore.

 

[OffGridIdaho]

Added the best recording of the knock (cold)

knock

 

[christisk]

In that video you said "it's gone away" so the knocking is in the video or no? It's REALLY hard to tell. Basically sounded normal to me but disclaimer it's so so hard for me to hear it through a video. Sorry. Good luck

 

[Rangemaster]

I hate to say it, but it sounds better then my quad. When my quad is in park, it makes all kinds of sounds. When I put it in High those sounds go away. I really think there is nothing wrong with your quad.

 

[OffGridIdaho]

So normal is a rod knock sound that wasnt there when new but showed up after 10hrs. I hate to say it but BRP makes such crappy ATVs they have the whole planet brainwashed into thinking bad is normal.

This is brand new. Not 5 years old and beat to hell and back.

How can ANYONE not hear the horrible knocking at the start of this video???
Listen on headphones or a desktop not a phone with tweeters for speakers.

Noise from 06-10 seconds then goes away. Sounds like someone beating the handle of a screwdriver on a valve cover.

 

[Angore]

It seems you already have a bad taste in your mouth. If I were in your shoes , I'd cut my losses and get the Grizz . Did you ask the dealer for an oil sample so at least you had something to back up your feelings ?
I could have bought any bike I wanted but chose my 23 850 . This is my 3rd Can Am since 09 and I personally would never settle for 2nd best .
I ride them hard and take care of them .
When they break , I fix them and keep riding.
None of my machines have ever left me walking .

 

[CMB]

Sounds like mine too.

 

[sledman8002002]

I dont hear anything out of the ordinary either but my ears aint the best when it comes to vids.
My 2 cents...Pop your primary clutch off (just the outer), start it and then give it a listen. You might be surprised. Regardless, it should help you narrow down an internal knock if its still there.

 

[OffGridIdaho]

It seems you already have a bad taste in your mouth. If I were in your shoes , I'd cut my losses and get the Grizz . Did you ask the dealer for an oil sample so at least you had something to back up your feelings ?
I could have bought any bike I wanted but chose my 23 850 . This is my 3rd Can Am since 09 and I personally would never settle for 2nd best .
I ride them hard and take care of them .
When they break , I fix them and keep riding.
None of my machines have ever left me walking .

Bad tastes comes from second time in shop in 3 weeks. Bike is brand new.

I have owned probably 50 cars, trucks, street bikes, dirt biks, jet skis, snow machines, scooters etc. Never once did any of them sound like this machine. Not once!

At this point the quad is up for sale on craigs. Dealers won't give me anything on trade and I refuse to lose 7k in 3 weeks on a new bike. As soon as I get a buyer I'm gone! I have owned 4 quads and all were perfect without any engine knocks and drivetrain clunks. Yamaha and Honda have never let me down. Sorry I moved brands on so many levels right now.

 

[X50]

Listened with headphones, don’t hear anything wrong with it.

So normal is a rod knock sound that wasnt there when new but showed up after 10hrs. I hate to say it but BRP makes such crappy ATVs they have the whole planet brainwashed into thinking bad is normal.

This is brand new. Not 5 years old and beat to hell and back.

How can ANYONE not hear the horrible knocking at the start of this video???
Listen on headphones or a desktop not a phone with tweeters for speakers.

Noise from 06-10 seconds then goes away. Sounds like someone beating the handle of a screwdriver on a valve cover.