Outlander 500L Exhaust question

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jamiek913

Discussion Starter · May 19, 2015

I've read as much as I can and haven't really seen an answer but a lot of the exhaust companies list which exhaust fits any size bike and they all seem the same. I've only ever seen a 500L in person but the pictures of where the slip on exhaust fits to the exhaust pipe and the hanger location seems the same.

Any suggestions on an exhaust for a 500L and if I would need a programmer to make it work. If I could avoid having to spend $300+ on a programmer to get 1hp that would be good because it really isn't worth it for me. I'm just looking to get a nice tone out of it.

Appreciate the help!

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VenomLightning

· #2 · May 19, 2015

Everyone will have their own personal opinions on this one

I love my HMF Performance duals, nice deep sound. I personally wouldn't install a pipe without a tuner especially if you get an upgraded air filter. Tuner to me is worth it, at least you have the reassurance that you're quad is running at the proper level it should be. A little extra $$ to make sure your motor doesn't burn out is worth it to me, with the higher elevation where I'm at it was even more justification to get one to make up for the power loss......just my $.02 , G/L with whatever you decide to go with, You Tube is your friend to find that sound you're looking for, but I know that alot of the clips I researched don't do them justice in person.

Deadman

· #3 · May 19, 2015

I wouldn't expect a lot of aftermarket companies to dive head over heels into making performance parts for a price-point ATV. Can am only built the L series to compete with the cheaper brands, so most of those buyers aren't looking to spend $$$ on hop up parts because they wanted minimal investment to begin with .

rustyshakelford

· #4 · May 20, 2015

Deadman said:
I wouldn't expect a lot of aftermarket companies to dive head over heels into making performance parts for a price-point ATV. Can am only built the L series to compete with the cheaper brands, so most of those buyers aren't looking to spend $$$ on hop up parts because they wanted minimal investment to begin with .

Hahaha. I bought a price point atv and it still cost over $8500. I know it's a far cry from the other offerings of can-am has though.

I don't know if your usually pompous or snooty but I'm sure there are people out there that buy the L and still have money left over for tires and maybe skids. On the other hand maybe they are just trying to keep it from being repo'd.

I couldn't see a difference in the regular 500 over the L besides an electronic key I didn't want and hand guards.

Brett

Deadman

· #5 · May 20, 2015

rustyshakelford said:
Deadman said:

I wouldn't expect a lot of aftermarket companies to dive head over heels into making performance parts for a price-point ATV. Can am only built the L series to compete with the cheaper brands, so most of those buyers aren't looking to spend $$$ on hop up parts because they wanted minimal investment to begin with .

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Hahaha. I bought a price point atv and it still cost over $8500. I know it's a far cry from the other offerings of can-am has though.

I don't know if your usually pompous or snooty but I'm sure there are people out there that buy the L and still have money left over for tires and maybe skids. On the other hand maybe they are just trying to keep it from being repo'd.

I couldn't see a difference in the regular 500 over the L besides an electronic key I didn't want and hand guards.

Brett

Its got nothing to do with me, but as a business they aren't going to market toward a product thats on the lower end first. If they are seeking more business at a later time, then I'm sure they would try it, but thats just not where the Gravy is for these aftermarket companies. Right now they are focused on the guys spending $25,000 on a UTV, not the guys spending 1/3 that much on an ATV. Simple as that! You need to look at it thru their eyes and see where the easy money is for them.

rustyshakelford

· #6 · May 20, 2015

Deadman said:
Its got nothing to do with me, but as a business they aren't going to market toward a product thats on the lower end first. If they are seeking more business at a later time, then I'm sure they would try it, but thats just not where the Gravy is for these aftermarket companies. Right now they are focused on the guys spending $25,000 on a UTV, not the guys spending 1/3 that much on an ATV. Simple as that! You need to look at it thru their eyes and see where the easy money is for them.

That makes sense but if you make a model that more people can afford wouldn't that increase your sales? Completly guesstimating numbers but if your selling 50% more units of a lower price point wouldn't that be a demographic to concentrate on? More atv's on the ground is more options for sales.

Sorry about the jab earlier. Glad you have tough skin. I took your comment a little to personal.

brett

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 20, 2015

rustyshakelford said:
Deadman said:

Its got nothing to do with me, but as a business they aren't going to market toward a product thats on the lower end first. If they are seeking more business at a later time, then I'm sure they would try it, but thats just not where the Gravy is for these aftermarket companies. Right now they are focused on the guys spending $25,000 on a UTV, not the guys spending 1/3 that much on an ATV. Simple as that! You need to look at it thru their eyes and see where the easy money is for them.

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That makes sense but if you make a model that more people can afford wouldn't that increase your sales? Completly guesstimating numbers but if your selling 50% more units of a lower price point wouldn't that be a demographic to concentrate on? More atv's on the ground is more options for sales.

Sorry about the jab earlier. Glad you have tough skin. I took your comment a little to personal.

brett

Just because it's a cheaper bike doesn't mean there isn't a market for it. See the Civic aftermarket, it's not my cup of tea but it certainly is one of the largest markets.. Not everyone can afford a Ferrari and put parts on it. Some people can't afford (or don't need) the big purchase but still want to have a nice exhaust tone.

I wasn't really asking for a marketing lesson on why you should focus energy on a smaller market :th_smiliefrustrated

Anyway, Thank you Brett for your input. I know I should get a tuner so I'll agree with you there. I was just wondering if I could get away without it safely.

The HMF performance exhaust is what I was thinking of getting and then getting the Gen 3 Optimizer from HMF.

VenomLightning

· #8 · May 20, 2015

Good choice brother, sounds great, wakes up that v-twin & will put a smile on your face, have fun.

GriffinPerformance

· #9 · May 20, 2015

HMF Performance slip-on 500xt with a 640 big bore

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Deadman

· #10 · May 21, 2015

HMF says they don't need a tuner, but most of us agree they should have a tuner, so you need to decide who to listen to.
I'll tell you that my 1,000 didn't run well at all with my full Muzzy and NO tuner. After installing VFJ's tuner it ran much better and made a bunch of power.

If I were you, I would do some searching on here and just butcher your stock pipe and make it louder at near zero cost.
I made a "how-to" post on how to butcher the Muffler on my 1,000, so feel free to look at that for ideas even tho the mufflers are much different. Maybe the marketing lesson guy just saved you $500? Mine sounded excellent, so if you just want noise you don't need to spend the money on a pipe or tuner since you are looking at the cost factor.

toxicwaste29

· #11 · May 21, 2015

GriffinPerformance said:
HMF Performance slip-on 500xt with a 640 big bore
Griffin Performance CanAm 640 Big Bore Testing - YouTube

Have you dynoed it yet?

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #12 · May 21, 2015

GriffinPerformance said:
HMF Performance slip-on 500xt with a 640 big bore
Griffin Performance CanAm 640 Big Bore Testing - YouTube

Griffin, that sounds sick! You may have convinced me..

One question, what do you mean by 640 big bore?

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 21, 2015

jamiek913 said:
GriffinPerformance said:

HMF Performance slip-on 500xt with a 640 big bore
Griffin Performance CanAm 640 Big Bore Testing - YouTube

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Griffin, that sounds sick! You may have convinced me..

One question, what do you mean by 640 big bore?

Strike that... I looked it up on your website looks like too much for me but the exhaust sounds great. I would imagine without the big bore it's similar.

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #14 · May 21, 2015

Deadman said:
HMF says they don't need a tuner, but most of us agree they should have a tuner, so you need to decide who to listen to.
I'll tell you that my 1,000 didn't run well at all with my full Muzzy and NO tuner. After installing VFJ's tuner it ran much better and made a bunch of power.

If I were you, I would do some searching on here and just butcher your stock pipe and make it louder at near zero cost.
I made a "how-to" post on how to butcher the Muffler on my 1,000, so feel free to look at that for ideas even tho the mufflers are much different. Maybe the marketing lesson guy just saved you $500? Mine sounded excellent, so if you just want noise you don't need to spend the money on a pipe or tuner since you are looking at the cost factor.

Thanks deadman! I will definitely look into that.

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #15 · May 22, 2015

jamiek913 said:
Deadman said:

HMF says they don't need a tuner, but most of us agree they should have a tuner, so you need to decide who to listen to.
I'll tell you that my 1,000 didn't run well at all with my full Muzzy and NO tuner. After installing VFJ's tuner it ran much better and made a bunch of power.

If I were you, I would do some searching on here and just butcher your stock pipe and make it louder at near zero cost.
I made a "how-to" post on how to butcher the Muffler on my 1,000, so feel free to look at that for ideas even tho the mufflers are much different. Maybe the marketing lesson guy just saved you $500? Mine sounded excellent, so if you just want noise you don't need to spend the money on a pipe or tuner since you are looking at the cost factor.

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Thanks deadman! I will definitely look into that.

Crap! Doesn't look like I'll be able to do it that easily as my muffler is sealed (welded) closed. May be an "L" thing... Oh well just going to have to buy an HMS!:th_smiliedance:

Deadman

· #16 · May 22, 2015

jamiek913 said:
jamiek913 said:

Deadman said:

HMF says they don't need a tuner, but most of us agree they should have a tuner, so you need to decide who to listen to.
I'll tell you that my 1,000 didn't run well at all with my full Muzzy and NO tuner. After installing VFJ's tuner it ran much better and made a bunch of power.

If I were you, I would do some searching on here and just butcher your stock pipe and make it louder at near zero cost.
I made a "how-to" post on how to butcher the Muffler on my 1,000, so feel free to look at that for ideas even tho the mufflers are much different. Maybe the marketing lesson guy just saved you $500? Mine sounded excellent, so if you just want noise you don't need to spend the money on a pipe or tuner since you are looking at the cost factor.

Click to expand...

Thanks deadman! I will definitely look into that.

Click to expand...

Crap! Doesn't look like I'll be able to do it that easily as my muffler is sealed (welded) closed. May be an "L" thing... Oh well just going to have to buy an HMS!:th_smiliedance:

I'm sure you could cut it open and remove some sound deadening material and get it welded back shut for short money. Just a cheap option…..

GriffinPerformance

· #17 · May 23, 2015

toxicwaste29 said:
GriffinPerformance said:

HMF Performance slip-on 500xt with a 640 big bore
Griffin Performance CanAm 640 Big Bore Testing - YouTube

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Have you dynoed it yet?

Dyno results should be next week finally got a stock 500 we are gonna dyno then build and dyno again

But here is the 640 vs a 500 if you are curious :yahoo:

Spunky

· #18 · May 28, 2015

I have a full HMF XL exhaust on my quad with HMF optimizer tuner. My dealer told me that if I'm just going to do a slip on that you do not need a tuner. I wanted a little bit more power so I decided to do the full exhaust and get a tuner love it sounds great and a lot more power. Just my 2 cents

jamiek913

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jul 10, 2015

I just talked to HMF and they do not have an exhaust for the L version. I can't see why the XT and L are that much different but he said it wouldn't work. Does anyone know what would work with the "L"?

I might just have to buy a 1000 XMR :yahoo:

jetripplef

· #20 · Aug 8, 2015

Just got an email back from HMF they told me to contact them in about a month and they should have an exhaust ready for the L. Just in time to store it for the winter.

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