Hey guys, i'm in the market for a new outlander and don't know which one to get. I like the idea of the xxc with the upgraded shocks but don't know if it is worth the extra expense. Also didn't know if you could fit a winch in between that new bumper. I really like the idea that it is based on fast trail riding/racing. The xtp seems like it is a better deal and cheaper since it comes with the bumpers and winch. In reality, I don't know how much i will use the winch just nice to know you have it just in case. The majority of my riding will just be trial riding. No extensive mud riding. If I were to get the xtp, I would upgrade the shocks to the hpg's for better ride. I've heard that the suspension on the xxc is not as soft as the xtp, is that true. I won't be wide open very often so I would like it to be comfortable while riding. Anyway, thanks for listening and let me know what ya think.