OK, I have had four Renegades. Not once did any of them give me a bit of trouble. I take care of my rides, most likley overkill on the clean, lube and grease thing. Me and my boys beat the living snot out of them. Not once did we ever break anything, and lord knows we tried. With that being said, I want to replace my three gades. I have a 2012 1000, a 2012 800 XXC, and a 2009 800. What Can Am has failed to do was to give me a reason to buy. Plain and simple, Still selling the same old machines. Hey Can Am, want my 45K, give me a reason to buy, otherwise, its three Polaris 1K Scramblers. And I have nothing but respect for the Polaris Scramblers. I have had some seat time and they are more than capable. I am not brand loyal.