Race trail tire opinions

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BSAN

Discussion Starter · Apr 3, 2015

I have a 1000xc I'm looking to replace the factory holeshots on. I really like the holeshots for the way I ride but am concerned with the weak side walls and general toughness of the tire. So I'm looking for the lightest toughest best trail tire currently on the market. Major mud isn't a concern. What's everyone think?? Thanks.....

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Deadman

· #2 · Apr 3, 2015

can't beat a BigHorn 2.0!

Here are the weights of the tires I have used. These are MY weights on my scale in my garage, not the manufacturers "claimed weight".

Stock beadlocks, F 9.8lbs, R 10.8Lbs
25” Holeshot F 15, R 22
25” Big Horn 2.0 F 19.4, R 24.6
27” Big Horn 2.0 F 22.2, R 29.0
27” Zilla F 21.4, R 25.8

Stan1k

· #3 · Apr 3, 2015

Unfortunately toughness comes with weight as most people know.

Original Big Horn's seem to be the favorite. I personally would go a little tougher tire like the Bearclaw HTR and for a race bike no bigger than 25".

TheBlizzard

· #4 · Apr 3, 2015

In my opinion you are going to miss the traction characteristics if you go away from the Holeshots; they are the perfect trail tire as far as I am concerned. There are a million different tire opinions out there and it really depends on what you like.

Personally I have never had a comparable tire to the Holeshots on dirt, sand, and light snow. The only place where they suck is mud since they get clogged up easy and don't have very deep tread.

The Big Horns are very popular too as a factory replacement, I have never run those personally but I am sure they are fine if you want to add a few lbs of rotating mass to your bike. I have used stock size Zillas and have like them too, best all around tire in my opinion if you wanted one tire that did it all pretty well.

And in regards to the durability of the Holeshots, I have never punctured one in the 2700+ miles I have on my Rene 1000. And a lot of that is riding rocky trails in northern Wisconsin at 50+ mph sliding through every corner.

Good luck with your choice.

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mtassie

· #5 · Apr 3, 2015

X3 on the big horns, love them

Deadman

· #6 · Apr 3, 2015

I loved the Holeshots too, but I wanted a little more bite as my 1,000 was spinning relentlessly in our loose sandy trails. I'm hoping the flat-faced 2.0 BH treats me better. On soggy wet sod they already have a ton more bite than the hole shots did.
I'm not knocking the hole shots at all, they served me well and I loved them.

Bumblebeegade

· #7 · Apr 3, 2015

I have HTRs 26" on mine, and tho little "no snow" action, so far I like them. Heard nothing but good things with them. My g/f's ride has the 2.0 and same with them. Funny, my HTRs are the same height as her 27" 2.0, and the 27" mayhems on stock b/l.

Scubasonic

· #8 · Apr 3, 2015

TheBlizzard said:
In my opinion you are going to miss the traction characteristics if you go away from the Holeshots; they are the perfect trail tire as far as I am concerned. There are a million different tire opinions out there and it really depends on what you like.

Personally I have never had a comparable tire to the Holeshots on dirt, sand, and light snow. The only place where they suck is mud since they get clogged up easy and don't have very deep tread.

The Big Horns are very popular too as a factory replacement, I have never run those personally but I am sure they are fine if you want to add a few lbs of rotating mass to your bike. I have used stock size Zillas and have like them too, best all around tire in my opinion if you wanted one tire that did it all pretty well.

And in regards to the durability of the Holeshots, I have never punctured one in the 2700+ miles I have on my Rene 1000. And a lot of that is riding rocky trails in northern Wisconsin at 50+ mph sliding through every corner.

Good luck with your choice.

I bought a 2015 Renegade 1000 XXc and had pre bought some original Bighorns cause I thought that the Holeshots would not be good for my trail riding. Fast forward now I have 13 Hrs on the Renegade and the Holeshots, and I am very impressed with how they have held up on my trail riding, and the grip they get. did get an extra set of Beadlocks and mounted my Bighorns on them but so far I'll just stick with the Holeshots

fabfabrisio

· #9 · Apr 4, 2015

all trak 9209 tire is good for fast trail riding , they have a good gip
has 2 ply , but they are strong tire , and light weight
y very happy with them , in the rock , little mud and snow :th_smiliethumbsup:

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TheBlizzard

· #10 · Apr 4, 2015

Deadman said:
I loved the Holeshots too, but I wanted a little more bite as my 1,000 was spinning relentlessly in our loose sandy trails. I'm hoping the flat-faced 2.0 BH treats me better. On soggy wet sod they already have a ton more bite than the hole shots did.
I'm not knocking the hole shots at all, they served me well and I loved them.

Ha ha yeah, I guess the key words are spinning relentlessly! I honestly think these have so much power we could debate tires for weeks and never find a tire to put 100% of the power to the ground. :th_smiliefrustrated

BSAN

Discussion Starter · #11 · Apr 4, 2015

TheBlizzard said:
Deadman said:

I loved the Holeshots too, but I wanted a little more bite as my 1,000 was spinning relentlessly in our loose sandy trails. I'm hoping the flat-faced 2.0 BH treats me better. On soggy wet sod they already have a ton more bite than the hole shots did.
I'm not knocking the hole shots at all, they served me well and I loved them.

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Ha ha yeah, I guess the key words are spinning relentlessly! I honestly think these have so much power we could debate tires for weeks and never find a tire to put 100% of the power to the ground. :th_smiliefrustrated

Yeah I agree ...good feedback so far. I wish the manufacturers would have more options in a true sport 4x4 tire. Does anyone know what the gncc can am guys use?

Deadman

· #12 · Apr 4, 2015

Just for clarity, I ran my Holeshots for 3 years and just took them off now because they are wore down some. I would have never removed them before they were worn, because they did great. I just figured if I was buying new tires, I'd opt for a tad more bite. I landed my 2.0's for $400, so I couldn't go wrong!

Scubasonic

· #13 · Apr 5, 2015

fabfabrisio said:
all trak 9209 tire is good for fast trail riding , they have a good gip
has 2 ply , but they are strong tire , and light weight
y very happy with them , in the rock , little mud and snow :th_smiliethumbsup:

If you don't mind me asking what size are you running front and back and do you use spacers?

fabfabrisio

· #14 · Apr 5, 2015

25x8x12 front
25x10x12 rear

not require mounting spacers on a g2 machine, but I put the 4x30 mm shortly after

Scubasonic

· #15 · Apr 6, 2015

fabfabrisio said:
25x8x12 front
25x10x12 rear

not require mounting spacers on a g2 machine, but I put the 4x30 mm shortly after

Thanks

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