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I am wondering if there are people who have both and could compare them...my understanding is the renegade is a bit more sporty and lighter.

But just looking for info.
 

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But the Outlander keeps you clean! I wish my Renegade kept me clean!
 

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Renegade an outlander are similar but very different.. They have different trailing arms, different suspension setup and different clutching..

They're both very fun to ride.. Like stated you stay much cleaner on the outlander, have the luxury of racks and room for another rider (comfortably) and have the same power

Renegade you can rip the trails, jump it, get the best of both worlds (off-road capability with sport features.. You can add racks if you'd like and add fender flares to help with staying clean, (which is what I did)..

It's what your into and your riding personality, if your a cruiser with the occasional mud hole go with an outty, if your a WTFO person (like me) renegade is where it's at.. Your choice you'll love both
 
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I have been leaning towards a renegade, with a rack on it, but saw the 1 up outlander and thought hmmm...I appreciate the input
 

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I have outlander rear rack on my renegade, works great awesome machine
 

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I've got an outlander 1000xt, renegade 800 and a renegade 1000xxc. Your choice should depend on your use, preference, and taste. They are all essentially the same machine. I thing some have greatly overstated the differences as I can make my outlander outhandle my renegade with a shock upgrade. I would say your main choice should involve power steering.Frankly once you have it you will never go back, or at least I wont. If you want a plush ride right off the floor buy the outlander, some complain that the front dives in corners but you got to push it for it to be an issue. If I was to just ride it and not race it, I always grab the outy. However over rough terrain the outy is still more comfortable especially out in the sand dunes after everyone have tracked it up on a busy weekend. The renegade XXL has good shocks but the ride is noticeably rougher. The renegade would handle a gncc course faster with less body roll due to the shocks but you would get beat to hell as well.
My Rene 800 is a Gen 1 lowered and sits 3.25 inches lower than either of the 1000s have. My girlfriend prefers it even though it doesn't have power steering because it sits muchlower and she feels safer. That and it rarely wheelies due to sitting so low. I have horseshoe raced it and it is fun but it will kill your kidneys over a bumpy surface due to the stiff racing shocks. It drives more like a sport quad but make no mistake NONE of these drive like a sport quad. These are all big machines that will make you pay if you don't drive them with authority. I have a raptor as well and have have other sport quads, they are different world'swhen compared to the rene and outy. I still prefer the Rene and the outy to the sport quads but Iit all manly boils down to your use. The big storage trunk on the Gen 2 outlander are so handy it's crazy. Every ride we put something in there, drinks, sweatshirts, tools. You get the idea.i am getting older and I enjoy the soft ride more and more for most of my riding so the outy sees far more miles than anything. But the renes have their purpose for me as well.
Unfortunately I didn't discuss the rene 1000 XXc purchase with my girlfriend and wanted to surprise her. She surprised me and said keep the old rene 800 and sell the xxc so we could get a touring motorcycle. Life with women are never boring but oh well. My rene 1000 xxc is now for sale if interested.
 

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I would like to clarify one thing the rene 1000 xxc does ride noticeably better since i took some pelreload out of the shocks. It is waaaay nicer ride than my rene 800 with its lowered race shocks. There are always trade offs, if you want soft ride you lose handling and vice versa. The rene 1000 xxc with the power steering and fox shocks is probably can am's best compromise for all around fun. Mine has a powder coated custom rear rack with tie downs that really make it way more functional than the way it came.
 

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Ok thank you very much all, I have been on a 2up out your 400 and I am looking at the Rene 500 or maybe 800, I will leave it stock minus rack and possible oh exhuast, and a small LED light bar
 

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Or you can have them both and get a 2011 xxc 800. It's the 2011 Renegade parts with outlander plastic on it. (If you're considering used)
 

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I had a '15 Outty 800 XT which I rode for a few weeks and just didn't care for it for my own reasons, great looking quad and serves a purpose but I came from another utility quad so I was a little tired of them and I really didn't use it to its full potential. I went back to my dealer ship and test drove a Rene 800 XXC and as soon as my a$$ hit that seat and I drove it around for a few mins I knew that was it. It has/is more comfy than the Outty XT seat, not sure if the XMR or XTP models are better or not, I have a bad back compliments of Uncle Sam. Personal preferences, comfort and your riding style/what you really are gonna use it for will be your deciding factor, to me the Rene has alot more balls than the Outty did, I can crawl over rocks, drift corners when I feel like it, tight-technical trails are not an issue. My dealer gave me an awesome deal so the nice upgrades the XXC model has was worth it. Just alot of little things added up for me to make the switch, if I were to upgrade some of stuff I wanted to change out it would've cost me more than what I paid for the Rene. They're both great bikes though don't get me wrong and they both crush other quads out there. Best of luck with your buy.
 

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I just picked up a Ren 1000 xxc. I have and had outty 800 with offset wheels , nice tires and gas front hpg shocks and my brother has a Ren 800 with nice tires all g1s. I have rode my buddies 14 outty 800 as well. I always loved the way the outty rode. Going through the rough stuff and just regular handling I felt it was more forgiving and absorbed the trails. Even on hitting 90 degree corners I could slide my outty out and stay flat. The Ren 800 xxc was set up for my smaller brother and it has stock wheels but good tires but still on fast corners I could get tippy. And in trail I can race my outty faster because the Ren just wasn't set up for me I want to say. So this time around I just flipped a coin because I was drooling over that digi camo Ren xxc so I bought it. I wish it had some of the outty things and I'm always wondering why I just didn't get the outty xtp. Seat is smaller and harder of course because it's more for racing. No trunk at all! Gauges are cheesy compared to the outlander. You spend 14,000 on a machine you would expect to get nicer gauges. Needs bumpers! Needs fender flares because you will be just covered in water and mud! Sounds like I'm complaining but those issues are my problems. I can't wait to get the shocks set up correctly! It rides so nice right now but it will only get better. It was night and day riding once I pulled my offset wheels and tires from my outty and put them on. Wow. I'm always amazed on how much of a difference they make! So back to the main subject..... what's the difference, well the difference is a few things which are obvious. The outlander is definitely more user friendly and for most of us who want to trail ride and Ren is for the guys coming off sport quads , they will like it way better. Outlander has the storage, racks, bumper, winch, softer seat and nice fenders! !
Renegade has the looks (prior to mud flares IMHO), speed, less weight so a little more agile, better for jumping and racing, smaller front end so quicker in tighter trails maybe.
Ok so that's the obvious. Basically they are the same damn quad. One has fenders the other doesn't. The main difference is the trailing arms (and maybe the A arms... I haven't looked at to many G2s)
Now that's where the ride might change. I wish I could explain how or why they use different arms and what are the pros and cons to them ? I think this whole topic really boils down to that one part, the arms of the beast.
Please someone feel free to continue where I left off explaining the arms situation.
 

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I have both the Outlander 1000 2015 and the Renegade 2015 1000 XXC as stated when I want to cruze the trails with my wife or carry stuff the Outlander does the job but when I want to tear up the trails with my Buddies it's the Renegade all day long. I look at this way the difference between a powerful comfortable car ride, and having a sports car in the Garage to rip around town when the mood strikes you.
 

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Outty 500L max DPS

So this is what I have and my boys have the DS250 and DS90X. I have a real hard time riding with them in the woods as the Outty is like riding a huge bull. The shocks are terrible and the machine rolls in corners making me feel like I am rolling over. I didn't adjust the shocks until last weekend and I don't know why and it seems a little better. The engine has plenty of power and I can ride someone on the back. The box on the back does not work for drinks as it is right over the exhaust and heats up pretty badly.
As far as comfort the bike is awesome if I am just slowly driving along. Slowly means putting around the property or 30-40mph on the dunes. I can pick up one of the boys and bring them back to the house to get more fuel with no problem. Cold blooded after starting and I have to take my time hitting the fuel. Key note if you shut it off in gear it is a real pain getting it back to N or P to start. The engine is much hotter on the left side than the right and a person can feel it on 90+ days.
I have been struggling with trading it in for a Renegade 1000X xc but the cost difference is a lot for the difference. I think it is far cheaper for me to just change the shocks at some time add different tires/rims.
That is my take on my Outty and what I have struggled with. My boys 90X is awesome and he hits black diamond trails and leaves us all behind. The DS 250 is ok and my boy likes it. It seems low on power but for a 10 year old works great. My wife is in a Polaris Ace as she hates the thumb throttle and it works great for her. We ride in the woods, trails, desert trails and at the dunes so they all get a real good workout.
 

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So this is what I have and my boys have the DS250 and DS90X. I have a real hard time riding with them in the woods as the Outty is like riding a huge bull. The shocks are terrible and the machine rolls in corners making me feel like I am rolling over. I didn't adjust the shocks until last weekend and I don't know why and it seems a little better. The engine has plenty of power and I can ride someone on the back. The box on the back does not work for drinks as it is right over the exhaust and heats up pretty badly.
As far as comfort the bike is awesome if I am just slowly driving along. Slowly means putting around the property or 30-40mph on the dunes. I can pick up one of the boys and bring them back to the house to get more fuel with no problem. Cold blooded after starting and I have to take my time hitting the fuel. Key note if you shut it off in gear it is a real pain getting it back to N or P to start. The engine is much hotter on the left side than the right and a person can feel it on 90+ days.
I have been struggling with trading it in for a Renegade 1000X xc but the cost difference is a lot for the difference. I think it is far cheaper for me to just change the shocks at some time add different tires/rims.
That is my take on my Outty and what I have struggled with. My boys 90X is awesome and he hits black diamond trails and leaves us all behind. The DS 250 is ok and my boy likes it. It seems low on power but for a 10 year old works great. My wife is in a Polaris Ace as she hates the thumb throttle and it works great for her. We ride in the woods, trails, desert trails and at the dunes so they all get a real good workout.
I feel Ya,

I have the 2015 Outlander 1000 MAX XT same thing regarding the shocks just switched them out for ELKA 4s
 

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Or you can have them both and get a 2011 xxc 800. It's the 2011 Renegade parts with outlander plastic on it. (If you're considering used)
Yes, that is true. I was in the same dilemma. I wanted power steering and the Renegade but my 08 had me way too muddy. Glad i chose the 11 Outty XXC. Wish they still made it and in the 1000.

Dave
 
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