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Hello all, this is my first post. It may be a little word so please hang in there. As my sig showers I have a 2015 Outty Max 1k Xt. I went with the xt for two reasons, I hate painted plastic, I'm a big dude and the Fox shocks on the xtp would need to be re-valued for me anyways. I am 6'9" tall and weigh 350 pounds. I like to ride aggressive at times but I'm no gncc racer. Also I have a ridding box in the back that's 40-50 pounds or so. I have been ridding this machine with the stock suspension on firmest setting. It's been ok for the most part but still lacking in whooped out trails. My wife and I are taking a trip in a few weeks to Wisconsin. We did a ride a week ago and I need some suspension help. My wife is 6'1" tall and goes 225. I have been looking at Elka, Works and Crutchfield. I also have 3 kids under the age of 4 so please don't tell me I need Elka stage 5's because they just aren't in the budget. I am hoping to spend around $1,000-$1,200. Crutchfield says their stage 1 will do it. Haven't heard back from Elka or Works yet. Please help.
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I had Stage 1 Elkas and they were a huge improvement over stock. They will make them to fit your riding style and weight. Now running Stage 4s.....WOW!
Also from the looks of things Crutchfield was very popular 5 years ago or so. Why not now? They look like nice units. I've read good and bad on everyone however. Just want a shock that can hold the weight and ride well. Odds are once the shock is on the atv I'm the kind of guy that will never touch it again.
The Fox's on the XTP would do it. Any shock you buy will need heavier springs to handle your weight, so figure on stiff springs for sure.

You can probably find a set of take-off fox podium X's on here for $1,000ish….. They are basically as good as an Elka and are easily accessible!
Another thought would be can I get heavy enough springs to put on the stock shocks? I need to have this ready for a ride on June 9th. Maybe I save more money for a higher end shock With this band aide.
well you could go that route but i doubt in the end you'll be happy for long. The stock shock valving is one of the 2 issues with the stockers. Putting a heavier spring will only 1/2 fix them.
Ok guys need some input quick. I have looked all over and here is where i'm at.

Elka can not build the suspension in time for my trip. The trip has been planned for over a year. I know I shouldn't have waited but it is what it is. They said they won't have them done for 5 weeks. I need them in 4 weeks.

Crutchfield he can have them built and to me in plenty of time. Unsure of the company. Seams to be more talked about on the gen 1 machines. He first offered a stage 1 shock but after talking with other people in the industry i think a dual rate is needed?

Works Performance can build them for me in time. They can build them in two weeks. They said a triple rate spring in the front and dual rate in the rear. They were helpfull and i see they have been in buisness for 42 years so I would think they could get the job done?

Axis they can build them in time also just barley but they are doulbe the price of anyone so no thanks. Im not a racer...

Thoughts? Need to pull the trigger........:aniwheeler6:
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Just a thought in case you cant make up your mind in time and want to try a cheaper option.

ok, here is what I found, OEM made for the G2 Max Outlander

BRP is now offering heavy duty suspension springs and 2 choices of shock kits that are factory developed for the customer who wants a firmer ride.

Available Kits, Options, (1)Heavy duty front springs (2)Stiffer spring for heavier loads, less body roll when cornering715 003 199. Option 2 (1)Heavy duty rear springs (2)Stiffer spring for heavier loads715 003 200. Option 3 (2)Pre-assembled FOX shocks and springs (4)Slightly stiffer with threaded preload adjuster715 001 471. Option 4 (3)Pre-assembled FOX HPG 2.0 Podium RC2 Piggyback shocks and springs (4)Fully adjustable, dual compression high performance springs and shocks715 003 201. (1) Options 1 and 2 can be used together. (2) This kit is in already available in the 2015 Can-Am Off Road Parts and Accessories catalog. (3) This kit will be available in June 2015. Individual parts are available in the 2015 Outlander suspension parts list.


Springs are about $100 a pair.

Fox kit (471) is about $580, I understood this to be all 4 shocks and springs.
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Have you got a link to that parts catalog? All I can find is the spring set in the third option.

I have that and wish I had listened to the advise on here, better then stock but overall a waste of money, put it towards a better setup.
+1 on the elka stage ones for $1000. That's what I got for my xmr 800, their built for me 300lbs and aggressive trail rider and I have hammered this poor quad since they got put on. They soak up everything
elka is the best by far i've ran works on another quad the were triple rate and my elkas were dual rate and the elkas performed far better
Just a thought in case you cant make up your mind in time and want to try a cheaper option.

ok, here is what I found, OEM made for the G2 Max Outlander

BRP is now offering heavy duty suspension springs and 2 choices of shock kits that are factory developed for the customer who wants a firmer ride.

Available Kits, Options, (1)Heavy duty front springs (2)Stiffer spring for heavier loads, less body roll when cornering715 003 199. Option 2 (1)Heavy duty rear springs (2)Stiffer spring for heavier loads715 003 200. Option 3 (2)Pre-assembled FOX shocks and springs (4)Slightly stiffer with threaded preload adjuster715 001 471. Option 4 (3)Pre-assembled FOX HPG 2.0 Podium RC2 Piggyback shocks and springs (4)Fully adjustable, dual compression high performance springs and shocks715 003 201. (1) Options 1 and 2 can be used together. (2) This kit is in already available in the 2015 Can-Am Off Road Parts and Accessories catalog. (3) This kit will be available in June 2015. Individual parts are available in the 2015 Outlander suspension parts list.


Springs are about $100 a pair.

Fox kit (471) is about $580, I understood this to be all 4 shocks and springs.
This may be new. But the Fox upgrade springs they offer in the BRP catalogue are not rated heavier than the stock springs on a Max. Last year before I bought the Elkas, I looked up parts numbers and searched through many forum threads about the BRP Fox catalogue springs.
Ive trail ridden my XMR with myself and the GF with no issues or complaints out of the stock Fox shocks. Would actually like a bit softer spring but with both of us on the bike it does not sag at all. Not sure if they are the same on the XTP/XT as the XMR bikes

We are likely about the same as you and the wife on your bike. Put ago 15 hours up in tenesse on trails about two months ago and except for the tires the suspension didnt leave up needing any more comfort. Yet again I havent ridden anything with an upgrade Elka

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Did you make a decision, Maximus? I'm curious because I'm in the exact same boat. I broke the adjuster ring on one of my fronts yesterday. (My bad) I've been wanting to upgrade the front shocks for a while, so now seems like the perfect time. Contacted Elka. 3 weeks. And I have 3 events in the next 3 weeks that I'd like to attend.

Follow up: anyone know of a way to band-aid the adjuster ring so the spring doesn't fall down? ( i am not very handy)
Witty,

I did purchase suspension. I sent you a pm with more detail.
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