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I have a 2012 G1 650Max xtp. Looking to replace the stockers with more mud capability. My local dealer can set me up with an ITP wheel/Mud Lite combo for $799 OTD or $899 for either one of these two tires. Bought atv used 1.5 years ago (my first ever) so of course like everyone else tires are a confusing and big decision.

Ride at River Ranch, FL. Mixed soft sand, wet/water sand and mud. Help and thanks in advance.
 

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running on a 650, which is lighter? I know my mega's are heavy but have held up well in rocks and deep mud.
 

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My 800 has no problem turning the 28" mega mayhems, love'em!
 

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Stock ACT's 26-8-12 are 17lbs. 26-10-12 are 23lbs.
Swamp Lites 27-9-12 are 27lbs. 27-10-12 are 29lbs.
Mega's 27-9-12 are 30lbs. 27-11-12 are 34lbs.
Mega's 28-9-12 are 33lbs. 28-11-12 are 34.5lbs.

Adding the Swamp Lites adds 26lbs overall.
Adding the 27 Mega's add 44lbs overall.
Adding 28 Mega's add 55lbs overall.

I wouldn't think adding the additional 55lbs for even the 28's would really make that much of a difference. My wife is 130lbs plus the 55lbs would be the same as having a 185lb rider on my max. Doesn't seem like the weight for any of them would be an issue unless others know otherwise about any strain on the drive train due to larger diameters.

The Mega's are tempting because of the 28's but the Swamp's offer a better ride when not in mud because of the center contact patch. Really torn and looking for input.
 

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Had the pricing wrong. The Swamp Lites are $799 out the door and the Mega's are $899 out the door for tires and wheels already mounting up. Seems like really good pricing considering they are already mounted.
 

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My vote is neither lol. I absolutely hate swamp lites, they do nothing in the mud, horrible in sand, and don't even attempt hooking up on hard packed. The megas are better but I actually just sold mine because I hate them, they are better in mud that swamp lits but will dig a grave quick, but they ride smooth. My vote for what you are wanting is the Kenda Executioner, they wear like iron and do very well in mud with good trail manners.
 
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X2- I've got Kenda Executioners on my Grizzly and love them. They wear great and are very good on both packed trails and in the mud. Lots of folks on the trails comment on their aggressive look. Would definitely buy then again,
 

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My vote is neither lol. I absolutely hate swamp lites, they do nothing in the mud, horrible in sand, and don't even attempt hooking up on hard packed. The megas are better but I actually just sold mine because I hate them, they are better in mud that swamp lits but will dig a grave quick, but they ride smooth. My vote for what you are wanting is the Kenda Executioner, they wear like iron and do very well in mud with good trail manners.
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Swamp Lites (otherwise known as Suckles) are one of the worst tires you can buy. I'd take stock over them. I could show you a picture of bald tires after 3 rides on mixed rock and hard pack in PA. I wish they would go out of business.

I like the Kenda Bear Claw HTR or GBC Grim Reaper, both 8 ply, the Kenda is cheaper
 

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Wow. I really appreciate the input and will knock the swamp lites out of the running and take a look at the executioners. I thought I saw they only came in larger sizes but I will double check.

Any other input of recommendations from anyone?
 

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I love my 28" Megas ... Have gotten me through some pretty thick mud and big with no problems. I do a bit of hard pack and /or trail riding too and they hold up ok there as well. My personal opinion would be go with the Megas but it's a bias one because I haven't had anything else yet
 
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I agree swamplites are good for nothing but Craigslist fodder. I had a set of 27s on a Rubicon 500 and a buddy with a prairie 360 walked all around where I was stuck with 26 xtr's. I also had a set of mega mayhems on a brute 750 and they were pretty badass in the mud but were heavy and liked wheel speed. From my experience the absolute best all around tire that I've witnessed is the mudlite xtr. Some people don't care for them but from my observation and experience they are good in basically every situation from smooth on the hard pack, to going through some sloppy fla mud. But they're not as good in the mud as a MM and nowhere near a true mud tire (ie silverback).
 

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Swaml lites are no good.
 
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I agree swamplites are good for nothing but Craigslist fodder. I had a set of 27s on a Rubicon 500 and a buddy with a prairie 360 walked all around where I was stuck with 26 xtr's. I also had a set of mega mayhems on a brute 750 and they were pretty badass in the mud but were heavy and liked wheel speed. From my experience the absolute best all around tire that I've witnessed is the mudlite xtr. Some people don't care for them but from my observation and experience they are good in basically every situation from smooth on the hard pack, to going through some sloppy fla mud. But they're not as good in the mud as a MM and nowhere near a true mud tire (ie silverback).
Very informative post. Thanks for posting.

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I love my 28" Megas ... Have gotten me through some pretty thick mud and big with no problems. I do a bit of hard pack and /or trail riding too and they hold up ok there as well. My personal opinion would be go with the Megas but it's a bias one because I haven't had anything else yet
Now that's an honest opinion, acknowledging you only have experience with these.
 

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I agree swamplites are good for nothing but Craigslist fodder. I had a set of 27s on a Rubicon 500 and a buddy with a prairie 360 walked all around where I was stuck with 26 xtr's. I also had a set of mega mayhems on a brute 750 and they were pretty badass in the mud but were heavy and liked wheel speed. From my experience the absolute best all around tire that I've witnessed is the mudlite xtr. Some people don't care for them but from my observation and experience they are good in basically every situation from smooth on the hard pack, to going through some sloppy fla mud. But they're not as good in the mud as a MM and nowhere near a true mud tire (ie silverback).
I see your also from Lakeland; where do you ride? Looking for riders to get dirty with since my wife prefers trails not mud and water.
 

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Zillas, cuz theyre the lightest, decently aggressive, run up to 120 kms on hard pack and they wear decently. The light weight makes them easier on components and rob the least amount of power.
 

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I ride wherever. Have property at RR and up in Steinhatchee, both are awesome places to ride. Have 2 sets of tires/wheels (which I highly recommend) so I can go planned for a day looking for hardcore mud and water which I really enjoy. Or I have a set of 25" half worn out mudlites on stock wheels if I'm going for trails and mainly hardpack where it's easier on the bike and myself.
 

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This weekend I was going though stuff with my MM in 2wheel where my buddy had to keep his 800 tapped in 4low...he has swamp lites
 

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Running 28" Megas on my 800 Rene and I love them, they have no problem in the deep mud and will back out of almost anything, smooth as glass on hard pack, they are heavy but the 800 has no problem turning them.
 

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I have 28" Megas. I am happy with them so far. Decent on trail and good in mud. I had XTR's for a few years and was very happy with them. I will agree with all the others that swamplites suck from what i have seen.
 
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