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Still running thru the maintenance after the last trip. I should mention the first day it was crazy dusty. The second and third day brought morning showers which made for the perfect riding conditions.

I ran into a very similar situation years ago with the sport bikes. I guess deep down I wanted to like these filters.

Even though it was properly oiled and installed with a bit of grease around the neck/mating surface, there is evidence of dust making it past the filter media. Yup, kinda upsetting.

I will be sticking with OEM filters moving forward. They are reasonably priced enough, there is no reason not to.

Your Milage May Vary........I Guess
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" they dont keep the fine dust out" on YOUR machine but the UNI and Belray"blue" has been doing a great job on mine for over 8 years now.
The filter is pristine inside, every time I take it out for Cleaning, once or twice per SEASON.

BLANKET comments like yours (who obviously SOMEHOW ....knows EVERYTHING) get rightfully IGNORED.
I agree with you on this. It's funny how one or two guys are claiming foam filters don't work yet. I just come from two different forums that have hundreds of members using uni filters on grizzlies and kodiaks for well over the last 10 years. Absolutely zero issues with dust getting by them and that's even with the Yamaha's notorious leaky air intake design over the last 5 years or so. A properly oiled uni and installed correctly will have zero issues.
But what do you and I know...they already "know it all" 🤪🤔
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I just did a valve adjust on a bike that was running a paper air filter, these usually have the best fine particle filtration. Still under that filter was a light coating of fine silt that made it through and would be sucked into the engine.

A very tacky filter oil on a foam filter will be more using the oil to do the filtering than the foam itself as the foam is simply only going to catch large particles. The super tacky fluids are a mess/pain to clean and apply some times but they are what has been found to protect the best in situations where fine sand can be sucked in. Also remember your intake is running similar to your best shop vac in the suction from the engine is great at higher rpms.

If you want to see how effective a filter is try and run a shop vac through it and see what you get past the filter. I have a K&N on my blast cabinet and then run it to my shopvac, when running glass beed there is plenty of times I have to clear the filter (which is good) but at the same time there is also plenty that gets through the filter into the shopvac.

On another note keep in mind filters also keep mice out (hopefully) and they will eat through a paper or foam type with ease if there is not a scrreen to keep them out or a oil they simply do not like the taste of. I just found this nest here on a customers bike (which is a first) so a reminder of the damage they can do as well as how small an area they need to be able to "get inside"
This is inside the steering head where they went in through the inside of the frame .
bottom picture is of the aluminum steering stem which the mouse piss has eroded to the point of impending failure.




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Good grief! Never seen anything like that.
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" they dont keep the fine dust out" on YOUR machine but the UNI and Belray"blue" has been doing a great job on mine for over 8 years now.
The filter is pristine inside, every time I take it out for Cleaning, once or twice per SEASON.

BLANKET comments like yours (who obviously SOMEHOW ....knows EVERYTHING) get rightfully IGNORED.
You don't have to look too hard past the op comments, I guess that issue is a one off or rare circumstance. My comments aren't based on my machine but 10 of my machines ridden across the Midwest, southern states, Colorado and desert, hundreds of miles annually. I'm not talking about a single machine ridding around in a forest or something but riding across all types of conditions with multiple machines plus groups of people. From my experience paper + foam + oil is a the best combination to keep dust out, + pre-filter for all day desert riding. There is absolutely nothing special about Belray blue and keeping a foam filter for 8 years isn't a good idea unless the machine sits in the garage most of the time.
Wow! Thought people can post opinions w/o a beat down. You don't have to look too hard past the op comments, I guess that issue is a one off or rare circumstance. My comments aren't based on my machine but 10 of my machines ridden across the Midwest, southern states, Colorado and desert, hundreds of miles annually. I'm not talking about a single machine ridding around in a forest or something but riding across all types of conditions with multiple machines plus groups of people. From my experience paper + foam + oil is a the best combination to keep dust out, + pre-filter for all day desert riding. People can make comments you don't like and you should be mature enough to not slam people for their opinion when you know nothing about them. Also, there is absolutely nothing special about Belray blue and keeping a foam filter for 8 years isn't a good idea unless the machine sits in the garage most of the time.
What harm does keeping a filter for years do? My 2004 & my buddies 2002 Honda Foreman 450 both have the 2 foam uni filters we bought for each bike in 2005, 2 uni for each bike rotated every 2 months roughly depending on km put on in that time. By my count, that is 28 years of use, so about 9 years of actual use, 9 sitting in a bag covered with oil ready for next service.
Take care of the foam, clean it good, squish it no twisting, it will last a long time. Sold my old Honda last fall, my buddy still has his as his kid rides it on the weekends. Filters always got soaked in either Honda or Yamaha filter oil or a custom blend of 2 stroke oil mixed with chainsaw bar oil.
So I would say there's no issue with keeping foam filters for years of you look after them properly.
Oh and FYI, these bikes weren't garage queens, thousands of km on them. Wear 3 or 4 sets of tires bald doesn't happen sitting in a garage.
Everyone is hating on K&n and my intake is crystal clear, even after a group ride in dust. just bought my second cone as the first one was pretty hung up after 11K.
Everyone is hating on K&n and my intake is crystal clear,
Yeah...gotta agree. I had one K&N filter that was a poor fit and required some padding (Kawaski lawn mower engine), but with all the others I've found them to be a good investment. In this market they would not last long if they were making crap.
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Thanks for all the replies.

I'm sure each filter we behave differently depending on the environment.

Prime example- Last weekend at FRO after 9 days of no rain it was a dusty place. Don't get me wrong - we had a blast and hopefully some of you did too. In certain areas the ground was covered in 3 to 4 inches of BABY POWDER type dust. It was Baja type turf. I would be very surprised if any filter would keep that stuff out. I can say with relative confidence that the OEM is better suited for this environment. Just something to be mindful of. If the rider needs a buff or handkerchief to breath, the bike probably does too.

If anyone have the filterwear part number for the OEM filter I'd appreciate it.

I'll report back once I open it up.


Cheers,
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