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13 650 DPS outlander. I just put on heavier tires bout 50lbs more than stock and are taller. I seem to have lost bottom end power. I don't do high speed or deep mud. I would like it to stand up when I hit the throttle!! What's my best choice. Thanks for anyadvice

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Both are very good clutches and from a price stand point I think there within $25-30 apart.

One of the most important thing about clutching is support. With so many variables getting questions answered can get frustrating.

VFJ has great customer support and answers all his calls and is the only one that carries the Team Clutch for Can Ams.

CVTech - Several vendors, some suck some good. Below are a few vendors I dealt with.

3P Pit Performance - Great support and carries several brands.
\\\airdam very difficult to get support almost impossible to be reached. I gave up.
Direct from CVTech - minimal support, they will just give you basic setup.

I have CVTech/STM combo purchased directly from CVTech and STM.

So for me I was pretty much on my own to dig out the information I needed for my setup. Not hard to make changes, just time consuming trying different setups. If you want to save time then buy from a vendor like 3P.

CVTech has several primary springs to choose from, all depends on what engagement and finish rate you want. This is the most difficult part of CVTech, picking the right spring.

Weights are very simple round coin shaped design and can be easily drilled for lighter weight and you can use simple washers or even pennies to add weight.

VFJ clutch I don't have any experience with but from what I hear it's similar design as the QSC. I have a basic idea how to set it up, but don't want to speculate as I haven't. So I will leave that alone for someone else to chime in.

From what I gather around my group of guys that I ride with. The guys with big tires and like to mud lean towards QSC. Fast trail riders like the CVTech for it's quicker throttle response.

One last word of advice I can give. Don't just stay with the setup they send you. Try experimenting with a little tweaking of the clutch. You can have the fastest setup for the track but might not be the best for everyday riding. Try different setups and see what feels best to you unless your racing everyday.
 

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The VFJ and QSC are very similar. The Team that VFJ offers was designed off the original QSC that team used as a the platform to build theirs from. What team forgot to check was the clearance in all the machines. They used a maverick for a prototype and built them to fit that. Then found out they don't clear the cover on anything else. Otherwise they are vary much the same clutch for the basics of function and design. The weights used are TOTALLY different and are what really set the two apart.

The CV tech is not as tunable as the others, but has a good reputation for performance and reliability too. Anything you tune by adding pennies to it just makes me shudder.

If you'd like to add QSC to your options list, let me know.
 

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Thanks for pointing out the differences between the VFJ and QSC rvsperformance. Do they also have the same lower gearing ratio. Could you give a brief explanation on the differences of weight design. Just trying to learn the differences.

As for the pennies on the CVTech, that's just me being el cheapo. I love my setup but you know how it is. Always curious to see what the other guy has.
 

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The center bearings are the same. QSC makes their own posts, and fixed sheaves as well as cover plates. Their clutch is short enough to not need a spacer behind the covers to get the clutch not to hit the outer cover. The post and fixed sheave are also stronger than the team parts and will take more HP without having issues. They both use the exact same moveable sheave and spider assembly. The differences in the weights is very lengthy and hard to explain. There are several adjustment points on the weights that allow you to fine tune different areas of throttle and speed vs the CV tech that just has sliding weight that you can't change at mid range or full throttle separate from low speed. Simply more tuning ability and better fine tuning with either the VFJ or QSC. But the fact is they all work well and give huge gains over the stock clutches.
 

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Has anyone had any trouble with the spacer required for the vfj? Something about that makes me nervous! I kinda like how simple the cvtech looks and no spacer. Does the cv tech have the same smaller bearing as the vfj?
 

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No, but I got the XMR cover and backing plate (more bolts) just to make sure it sealed good.
 

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There nothing to be nervous about its just a quarter inch spacer I needed to remove the inner cover anyways it makes adjusting the valves a breeze on the rear head, at the same time I installed exhaust & programmer.
 

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Should I talk to 3p or performance ATV? Who has better service. I tried to call vfj but I guess he is on vacation I will call him when he gets back. Just trying to get all my info before I make a choice. I have read so many clutch threads I'm really confused now! Lol
 

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Just to clarify my last post, I have not had problems with the spacer. I'm not sure about the diameter of the cv tech without searching on it. I just realized that you had asked 2 questions in that post.
 
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Both clutches are nice, i think the VFJ has a slightly smaller starting ratio. I personally have CVTech, but if i did again i think i would go with the VFJ for the customer service. I recently put larger tires on mine and my wifes machines and have yet to get a hold of Airdam in the last month and a half. They never seem to answer the phone or email. I have also been trying to get in touch with Russel Coker at 3P for the last 2 weeks. When i put the VFJ on my buddies Renegade there were no issues with John.
 
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I got a cvtech from 3p and it is awesome!! Throttle respond is crazy and low end power is awesome! Russell from 3p is a great guy to deal with and has been very easy for me to get a hold of for install and tuning questions. I would buy from him again.
 

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Try Jace Cheramie racing out of Houma LA. I bought my CV Tech/STM combo from him. He set em' up for my bike. Great guy to deal with. Call 985 637 6771.
 

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I'll be the first to say VFJ's customer service is second to none. I needed a bolt for my VFJ clutch while john was on vacation and he still had someone ship me the bolt while he was gone! Great guy!
Now I wait for my DPS to get fixed so I can get the quad home and put the primary on it.
 

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Sorry guys, but the VFJ clutch (AKA Team clutch) is NO LONGER being produced. I spoke with team this week....they verified what I heard, which was that Team is focusing their manpower on the OEM parts production, rather than aftermarket clutches.

So get them while you can.....cause unless they restart production, once they are gone, they are GONE!!!
 

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I'm pretty sure VFJ already cleared this up and said they are still making the clutches for him. Sure TEAM isn't selling them anymore, but VFJ can get them.
 

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I'm pretty sure VFJ already cleared this up and said they are still making the clutches for him. Sure TEAM isn't selling them anymore, but VFJ can get them.
I hope this is true (I believe it is). I will get a clutch in the future but it may be a long while before I actually do.

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So, does that mean that the New QSC primary won't be produced either since they are both made by Team?....and if that true that they won't produce them anymore, I wonder why?
 
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