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A knocking sound in the new Outlander 1000 XTP T3 engine.

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A knocking sound appeared in the new 2024 Outlander XTP 1000 T3 engine. It's been running for only 11 hours. The dealer says it's normal. All the latest models of this series have this issue. The manufacturer changed something during assembly. The old models didn't have this issue. The engines worked without this noise. I don't like it. The noise appears after the engine heats up. It works fine when cold. What could it be and is it a manufacturing defect? What would you advise? I'll try to upload a video to clearly show how the engine works. There's a noise somewhere on the right side, where the cylinders are located. This issue has been discussed here before.
 
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That definitely seems excessive. Maybe have another dealer look at it?
 
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We only have one dealer. He doesn't see this as a problem and says it's fine to drive without any restrictions, but he acknowledges that such noise appeared only on new models. I wonder what other owners of the new Outlander 1000 have to say. Have they encountered a similar issue, or am I looking for a problem where there isn't one?
I apologize for my English.
 
#5 ·
It seems newer ones do make this noise but I don't think any part numbers have changed. Try a blank-50w oil. See how it changes it the noise. Or just drive it like you stole it and dealer will fix it if it blows up.
 
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#6 ·
That's exactly what my service technician has told me... :LOL: So I am driving it like hell, but nothing happened yet. Outty is a rock solid machine..

By the way,I have also contacted the Dealer, which I have puchased the bike from / who is in another city, has told me that this is a common noise on all of the latest series (2023-2024) Outlander max models with LED headlights. He claims that this is not a "knock", it is the regular noise of the Rotax motor running...

But the master technician of the Authorized BRP Service in my city says that this is a knocking issue and they will check the engine when I take the bike for 1000km maintenance. They have also connected my vehicle to the computer and started a "warranty" procedure anyway...

We will see who is right, who is wrong... I am at 820km at the moment and I am planning to take the bike in about 2-3 weeks...

I will keep this post updated.
 
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My 2023 Outlander XMR 1000R does the exact same thing. sounds fine while cold and makes that same knocking noise once warmed up. I have had nothing but problems with my machine. Lower block replaced due to pitting, electrical issues, not to mention issues caused by service at the dealership. I was asked not to bring my machine back as they said they can't seem to meet my expectations. They are a joke and I have recently switched to a different dealer for service. My machine is currently there due to the fuel pump failing. One thing after another but the noise the engine is making does not seem to be an issue. It has not got any worse or any better. With all of the problems I have had I now just drive the piss out of it and don't worry about it until it breaks.
 
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My 23 left over 850 max sounded that way right from the dealer. I have changed the oil twice and cut the filter open in the sun. Zero metal. I am running can am 10-50. No reduction in noise. No metal on the drain plug magnet at second oil change at all. My 23 1000 renegade xmr makes the same noise only much much less. You can hardly hear it. I have watched a bunch of YouTube videos and you can hear the 22,23,24 850 making the same noise. Three weeks ago I went and started a 24 850 max on the showroom floor. Same exact noise. My buddy picked up a 24 1000 max on Saturday. I will post what his sounds like as soon as I hear it. They are quiet until the oil thins out.
 
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I was riding with my buddy yesterday on his 24 max 1000. It has 75 miles. When it’s been run and ridden for hours his sounds just like my 1000. A very slight ticking sound at idle. I also ran across a left over 23 max 850. Ticking sounds as loud as mine at idle. I know some of you stated that your 1000 was loud. That maybe the case. However at this point all the 1000 machines I have heard are far far quieter than the 850. I have no idea what makes the 850 so much louder. But that is what I have experienced on multiple machines.
 
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I Really wish I knew what it is. It drives me crazy. I would have bought the 1000 if I knew that the 850 would be so loud. I guess it is what it is.
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This is what you need!!

Believe it or not I thought of that!🤣 I am using the can am xps 10-50. The thicker oil made no difference. I would go with the louder exhaust to hide the noise but I ride at least a little almost every day. I don’t want to tic off the neighbors.
 
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My 23 850 does it, doesn't seem to be as loud as the video but hard to tell. Not worried about mine. Some motors just have little quirks and mine is not loud enough to make me worry anything is wrong. I figured it was just a valve tick, nothing all that uncommon.
 
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I love how quiet these are, wouldn't change mine. But having built so many quads over the years, a nicely modded Banshee running T5 exhaust is music to my ears or the ping of a 250 2 stroke as it warms up for the days ride. I'll bet with the right exhaust the twin would sound so nice. A dual setup to let each cylinder breathe and have it's own sound. Not something that just screams to be loud and obnoxious, more of a warm mellow tone to extenuate the lower rpms that they run due to the cvt.
 
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I know mine is not a knock but a tick almost like an exhaust leak or a loose valve. If it was a knock I'd be selling it. I've only noticed it doing it a couple of times and even then if i wasn't bending over by the motor I probably wouldn't have noticed it. Maybe the ones other people are having are worse.
 
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Have you had any issues with your quad because of this, now that you've clearly must have many more miles?
 
#37 ·
As CMB said, most people only show up here to look for resolutions to a problem. You end up seeing mostly "bad" but that's not reality. It's skewed results. You have to understand online forums etc.

ANYWAY, I post plenty of great experiences all the time about trails, and trips, and pictures, etc. etc.
 
#38 ·
My 2024 1000R makes this exact same sound. When it’s cold, the sound is not there. Drive it for 5-10 minutes and the sound is there. I have 480 kms on it so far. I also have a 2017 1000R that has 8900 kms. It doesn’t make this noise. I am still waiting for an appointment at the dealer to get it checked out. I also have a post on this page about it.
 
#39 · (Edited)
Well it's running ,try taking add some extra heavy oil to it ...I mean real heavy and see if it goes away if it's only doing it when it gets hot something's expanding and getting loose I can't believe Can-Am can't figure this out it's a 22' motor isn't doing it and the 23' model is ....you put both of them on a bench and you start taking it apart and measuring stuff Wa.. la...
 
#40 ·
From what I have observed the 1000 machine I have and all that I have heard are far quieter than the 850 machines. Mine is definitely a ticking sound not a knock. Thicker oil and MOA oil additive which is great stuff didn’t make any difference. The dealer told me that they like MOA so much they are a Harley dealership as well and use it in every Harley they serviced. I have 1,300 miles on it now and no difference in the noise from new. As stated in one of my previous posts I started a new 24 850 Max at my dealer. Same as mine. Quiet until the oil thins out. I have gotten to the point where I have tuned out the noise and don’t even notice it. As stated by the other members above. None of the brands are perfect. Even with this noise. Can-Am is the way to go. You can’t beat the power these twins put out.
 
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I'm not an additive guy by any means BUT:

MOA is good stuff. My son works for Toyota and has sent me lots of pictures of engine internals of MOA vehicles and non-MOA vehicles.

I have a shelf of it here but was never sure of the use ratio in these bikes.

@ Cummins67 - Do you have any insight on how much to add? Half or a quarter can maybe?

Got to love BG stuff
 
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I'm not an additive guy by any means BUT:

MOA is good stuff. My son works for Toyota and has sent me lots of pictures of engine internals of MOA vehicles and non-MOA vehicles.

I have a shelf of it here but was never sure of the use ratio in these bikes.

@ Cummins67 - Do you have any insight on how much to add? Half or a quarter can maybe?

Got to love BG stuff
I added between a 1/4 and half a can first. Then filled it the rest of the the way with can am 10-50 oil. There is not one spec of metal on the drain plug magnet. I cut the filters open and look at them in the sun light. Absolutely spotless.