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Will when you guys will be on yournew 08 1000lbs (notCC) Sportsmen, kings,griz ill be blastin by all of you on my Renegade.... maybe a outtie next yr.

I hate the price, but ill stick with the best :)
 
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What about Yamaha, Honda etc? What are their prices in Canada compared to the US? What is the sales tax rate in Canada? What about other goods and services, what is the price difference?



Kind of sounds like collusion but that would have to involve most of the major manufacturers such as Yamaha etc.



The profit margins here on these ATV's isn't THAT great and there is probably a lot more competition so that always factors into pricing in a "free" economy LOL.
 
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Also all Makes and models are having the same issue right now including automobile manufactures and the such.>>>>>>>>>>



Why? I mean, sounds like you guys are talking a 25-30% difference which is freaking HUGE. Do you have a massive import tax? There has to be something that is driving this right now. The dollar is very weak, but someone said the exchange rate is almost even so that wouldn't explain it. There has to be some underlying factor causing companies to do this. Some kind of government regulation driving up the price?



WTF good is NAFTA if you can't cross the border and make a purchase with out being taxed to death? Kinda takes the FREE out of North american FREE trade agreement?
 
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I dont think it would be import charge... can-ams were and ski-doos are manufactured in Canada
 
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It is not just BRP,it is all the manufacturers, go to the yamaha us website then the canadian and compare msrp on the atv's and rhinos, there is a huge difference. Last year we looked at an 07 Escalade in Alberta the sticker price was $94,000, drive through a dealer in the states, you will be able to buy the same vehicle for under $70,000. So how could there be 20-25k difference between Canada and USA.
 
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I guess if everyone is doing it makes it hard to single out BRP.



Back in the 50's the Japanese were dumping TV's on ourmarket below their cost, this was an attempt(a successfull one) to run out the competition and it worked. The Japanese citizens were in an uproar because it was cheaper to buy a TVmade in Japan in the US then it was in Japan.
 
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This isn't a tax issue, Federal and Provincial taxes are charged on top of these prices. This is simply a strong and fast moving Canadian dollar against the US dollar. The manufacturers don't want to panic and adjust pricing in case our dollar drops. The bottom line is the current US sub prime crisis against our strong economy especially given our huge oil resources has made our currency switch places so to speak.

The part I have a serious issue with is instead of adjusting short term pricing they instigate these rules and tariffs on dealers and Canadian citizens. As someone already mentioned here the tables where turned about a year ago and there were lots of Americans buying trucks up here, in fact Canadians were making serious $$ sending trucks down to the states.

As I mentioned before it's easy enough to get a US address, with that and that alone you can easily justify to any dealer or Can-am themselves. Legally there is squat they can do!
 
Agreed its still pretty easy to get a machine down there, but they swear there will be no warranty.

To me the savings outweigh the warranty, i do all my own work anyway and most stuff i break i repleace with better aftermarket stuff.It was only a couple years ago these things came with practically no warranty. You can always say what if this breaks or that breaksbut just buy it and ride it!!!
 
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I also agree... if i can save $3g's over warrenty, i can justifly it.

I know a fella that just brought back 5summits from the states b4 BRP laid their foot down. Looks like im gonna get a cheap doooooo :)
 
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I am also one of the people that purchased BRP product from the states. After carefully weighing my options which included local economy, keeping my local dealer happy, having to travel for service as a result of not keeping my local dealer happy by not purchasing from him, voiding a 3 year warranty which could have been exercised a few times already. It came down to me spending my hard earned money. Granted I wouldn’t have made the trip for a $1000 savings I would have purchased locally but for $3600 there is no loyalty.

This being said I think it is up to the Canadian dealers and BRP to work it out. Wake up this is your business and livelihood If I was anyone of the Canadian dealers I would be knocking on BRP’s door everyday. It comes down to simple business economics of competition, eat or be eaten. Good service alone is not going to float your recreational business. Sitting idle and hoping that your current customers are going to stay loyal and shop local will only result in failure Regardless of the quality of your product if your supplier/manufacturer is not willing to follow through to make the end user happy you don’t have a viable product.

BRP’s decision to void cross border warrant and purchasing is a lame duck tape approach on their behalf of dealing with a much larger economic problem which they would stand to lose margins if they lowered Canadian prices. Which I’m sure would greatly effect how much fat is in it for the dealers. Maybe this is why nothing has been done. Everyone need to eat, Just how much is the question…..
 
I am starting to wonder how BRP does there business, I called there today and made a complaint about the cost difference and how they have ordered dealers south to not sell to Canadians. The lady I talked to said all the dealers Canadian and American are suppose to only sell tocustomers in their own country. Everybody that has a chance from Canada should callBRP and make a complaint, sooner or later they should get the hint.
 
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Not everything is more expensive in Canada. There is a huge amount of prescription drug money crossing the border because it is cheaper in Canada.

Is there a also adifference in the typical hourly wage on the other side of the border? How much sales taxdo Canadians have to pay when purchasing a vehicle?
 
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There is a 6% Federal tax every province pays and some pay 6-7% on top of that, in Alberta all we pay is the 6%. The hourly wage may be a little higher depending on what sector you work in, we have just had huge pay increases in Alberta over the last couple years due to the lack of workers and strong economy. Our minimum wage is propabaly not much more than most of the States.
 
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Ill a long rode trip tomorrow, so ill be calling BRP tomorrow many timez. Im gonna stop in the BRP dealership in Edmonton tomorrow as well. They always have some juicy gossip. (biggest BRP dealership in western Can.)
 
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THIS JUST HASN'T HAPPENED. LAST YEAR WHEN I BOUGHT MY 650 XT IN CANADA AT MY LOCAL DEALER, I COULD HAVE SAVED $2000 BY BUYING IT ABOUT ONE HOUR SOUTH IN MINNESOTA...AND THIS WAS BEFORE ANY DICKERING WITH THE U.S. DEALER.NOW IT IS JUST GETTING WORSE.
 
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tax here is 14 % which is another bum reeming but irrelevant.BRP knows they've been gouging for years and blaming it on exchange rates which affect,,,yadayadayada.

Now that they cant use that excuse anymore,putting on a big surcharge for cross border shopping ,then increasing it,then dis-allowing altogether!!! This just says to me that "we're ripping you off and we're gonna damn-well keep ripping you off as long as we can, suckers"

Maybe someoneshould include them in one of these law-suits that ive been hearing about
 
Yamaha just dropped Canadian prices on its snowmobiles 700$. It is not enough,but at least it is a start...as they know their Canadian dealers and customers won't put up with it. They have had a revolt from their dealers...and it helped.
 
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I'm sorry I don't understand the International exchange as well as BRP does. I do know when someone is blowing sunshine up my arse though. I can't help but wonder if what is taking place iseven legal. If I take myworthless dollar anywhere else in the world,there are no special considerationsby anyone for anything, the exchange rate is whatit is.I have topay the piper. If I go to Canada and buy a quad, is BRP going to say Ohhh Noo you don't. We can't accept that extra money from you.You are going to have to go home and pay less, what are you trying to do ruin theworld's economy?In BRP's own words the exchange rate is 1.12 compared to he dollar and dropping. If so why such a large descrepency in price? Ifthe Canadianexchange does go to 0.98 against the dollar in 2008 then you guys are truly f@#ked, causethe dollarhas beenhitting an all time low on a daily basis.If Canada dropslower thanus in such a short time then I would say the current school of thought ain't working and company's like BRP need to rethink their business plan.
 
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