I'm diggin' the XMR 1000 idea, but I can see the MSRP, now.

2013 Can-Am Outlander 1000 XMR: MSRP $15,988 US

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1. Lower MSRP
2. 3 Year Honest Warranty
3. Renegade Style Braking On All Models
4. Lower MSRP
5. Available Outlander 1000 XMR
6. Available Outlander 1000 XXC
7. Lower MSRP
8. Lose The Color Cost
9. All New Customer Service Department
10. Snorkels On All Outlanders and Renegades
11. Fix Trunk Issue On Outlander Gen2
12. One Piece Bumpers On Gen2
13. Power Steering Comes Standard
14. 1.9% Financing

 

X2! (except for #10, hate those ugly things!)

 

LARGER GAS CAPACITY!
1200xt turbo

 

1200!? LOL! Where will it end?? :yahoo:

 

dual exhaust and a turbo for a 1000 xxc outlander

 

Built in gps

 

NHRA top fuel powertrain and maybe a basket and tassels for the handlebars!!!

 

Ol and one more thing Can Am engineers don't forget my first request!^^^^

 

I may of posted this earlier, but lower MSRP, base machine with visco QE, optional EPS.

 

How about seperate brake levers for a change?

 

Maybe as an option but I rather have the single lever :thumbsmilie:

 

For me I'd would go with a few changes:
1) G2 chassis on all models including the Max.
2) A smarter computer with Adaptive Memory. (o2 sensor)
3) The ability to look up codes & reset passive ones using the display. (Maintenance Soon).
4) Veritable power Steering.

 

Hmmmm tons of great ideas but if I read all of the responses so far I'm going to go off the board a bit on this one. With the entrance of the 1000 into Can Am's lineup do they really still need both the 650 and 800R ????? I would like to have both dumped for let's say a 750 with about 70hp! then they would have 400,500,750 and 1000.It would eliminate 1 production line for BRP and maybe help with the price of the bike itself........I'm not sure what others think about it though.
My other wishes I believe have been mentioned,the 1000 in a MAX and it would be great if they could program the rad fan to come on at 160-170 rather than 208 it would seriously help with the "heat issues"

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2011 Outlander 650 Max XT

 

That would knock the 1000 of its pedestal as well (@ 70Hp)!!

And for a 800 to pull off that number she's pbly not a 800 anymore either! (BBK, Cams, etc..)

I've seen the 1000 on the dyno a few times rating in @ 62-64Hp. 70 with a bunch of mods and 84 w/ some serious ones. (Of course we're talking RWHP so actual). As far as the 1000's cooling, I really don't have a problem with it at all. My fan kicks on and off at normal stages and doesn't run very long at all. The Gen 2's got a very large radiator which I think solved the "overheating" problem last year.

And from what I understand from the dealer and GT, the Max will have the 1000 in a Gen2 chassis this coming year! I guess XMR won't be available but Base/XT's/Limited's will be.

But to an extent I do agree. The line-up could use some thinning out for sure. I don't like how the 500 and lower use a strut style suspension for starters. The 650/800 is a little redundant. The 800 is very close to the 1000 for price and the 650 is a little wanting for more power. A 700/750 for a couple/few grand cheaper would be a nail on the head for Can Am (IMHO). They would get a little more money from 650 buyers and sell more 1000's from the 800 buyers. Either way the market is there for one machine to suck up the two.

As far as the 500/400's, first off they need to offer more machine. Not necessarily in the way of power but units with power steering, Non POS suspensions and a physically smaller frame/bodywork would sell very well! (Check the Yamaha Kodiak line). Women and smaller Men/Boys would fill this line nicely. IMHO Can Am does NOT offer a Women based Utility machine very well at all! Trust me I know as we shopped for my wife and of course I wanted a pair of Can Am's but instead got a 550XP w/ EPS!

Shes LOVES that machine! It fits her perfectly, steering is effortless, power is perfect and the price was perfect! All I had to do was add a winch (RT30), a rear storage box and windshield. She could probably use more aggressive tires than the Carlisle's she got with it but don't all machines! (Excluding XMR of course) All Can Am needs to do is "SHRINK" the 650/800XT down and offer Base/XT models the same as the larger big bores. (Again kinda like Yamaha and Suzuki did (note Ozark/Eiger/Vinson))

We got an excellent price for the 550XP but my first pick was the 450 Kodiak Ultramatic w/ EPS. Ended up finding a lottery winner that actually never even started this Popo for 1500-2000 cheaper than new off the shelf. I actually rolled the odometer to mile 1 going up the ramps on the truck! LOL! Can Am really needs THIS kind of machine!

My 2 cents anyways.

 

I think you are right on the money Outlaw. To me an 800 today is redundant given the little difference in $ to a 1K. A 750 for a good price woulds be a smart market move.

Also for 13, given that all of the lines except the XMR will be coming out G2, Can AM will have to do something to keep the 1K as the machine to have and warrant the extra $'s. Yes it has power, but not all of us are speed demons like moi.

Also, I think Can Am should dump Caralile tires. Most switch up when buying, so pick a popular premium tire like Maxxis Big Horn or ITP Terra Cross as a high end general purpose tire. You will still have your big mudders wanting something else, but at least you have a quality tire to trade with and lower your mod cost out the door.

Also, it is my hope that BRP has been monitoring the G2 threads and picking up on some of the most common obervations of the owners (i.e. brake pads, fender caps, the cost of the 10-hr check, etc) and make some modification to the 13 offerings.

Finally, given the clearance of a Can AM, skids should be stock. Get rid of the junk Can Am sells and contract with Ricochet for all XT and Limited Models. We pay big bucks for our Can Am's, because they are the top of the line machine. We all know the mod's almost everyone does almost from day 1, so lets cut to the chase and have'm there at the same price!

 

I would like to see a difrent locker put in the front. the visco lock sucks....

 

Sorry Guys, the very first thing they need to do is address the POWER STEERING ISSUES.

Then a 1200.

 

My PS has been flawless...knock on wood!

Aside from the 3rd mode box having to be set EVERY time I start the bike, I'm quite happy with the system...Again knock on wood!

 

I don't agree with getting rid of the 800 or even the 650, they are both proven mills that work great. Why should they get rid of two engines that really helped build their reputation as reliable,powerful,and good fuel economy. I not sure about you guy's, but I like to buy proven products and not the new hype! Maybe I'm just too oldschool with my thinking?

 

Both Big Outlaw and cammed have great points,but I have to go with Outlaw on this one...sure the 650 and 800R are true and proven great rotax engines.But a company needs to change along with the market to stay ahead and while no doubt there would probably some bugs that would need to be worked out of a new 750.....with can'am's engineering skills I have no doubt that very quickly they would have it "dialed in" so to speak and I think would command a high market share in that range fairly quickly....the 70HP I put was based on the advertised HP of 60 for the 650,71 for the 800R and 82 for the 1000.

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2011 Outlander 650 Max XT

 

Both Big Outlaw and cammed have great points,but I have to go with Outlaw on this one...sure the 650 and 800R are true and proven great rotax engines.But a company needs to change along with the market to stay ahead and while no doubt there would probably some bugs that would need to be worked out of a new 750.....with can'am's engineering skills I have no doubt that very quickly they would have it "dialed in" so to speak and I think would command a high market share in that range fairly quickly....the 70HP I put was based on the advertised HP of 60 for the 650,71 for the 800R and 82 for the 1000.

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2011 Outlander 650 Max XT

So basically you want them to change the name of the 800 to 750? I don't get it. My 09 800r is rated at 69 hp and my 11 800r is rated at 72hp,so a 70 hp 750 would not be anything more than a marketing sceme.

 

I guess I just like plenty of options for the buyer just like back in the good ol days,like when you could buy a mustang with a 200ci. 6 banger all the way up to a 429 BOSS. Variety is good for the consumer but not always for the manufacture. I'm the consumer so give me options! Plenty of options sets Can Am out in front also instead of cookie cutter companies.

 

I hear where your coming from...I knew that not everyone would agree with it,thats why I said it was "off the board" a little bit....just a wish list from me......not sure if CA is listening to what I have to say or not.My next bike would either be an 800R G2 frame MAX or the 1000 in the MAX but I think there is a market there for 1 machine between a 500 and 1000.
just my :smilietwocents:cents responding to the thread...great thread by the way and I hope Can Am is listening :th_smiliethumbsup:

 

Yeah Can Am if you're listening add a 750,850,900,950,and ol hell yeah an 1050 for starters!LOL!!

 

I'm sure they will be all over that!! but with every production line and "choice" you prefer only increases the price:th_smiliepullhair:

 

When I bought my outty I was thinking about the 800 at first but after thinking about it the 650 was the perfect size for the family/ hunting quad. I think can-am now has a really good engine family with the audition of 1000. That being said I would like to see a outty 1000 xxc and a deep cycle battery standard.

 

Sorry about the rant,but I look at variety as a freedom that this country has gotten away from in many different aspects, so give me back my freedom of choice! Thats one off the things that made the ol USA so great! Thanks to a Canadian Co. too keep my spirits alive!! Oh and by the way,give me gas guzzling big blocks and keep your hybrid garbage for those that think they are actually saving the world. Rant over!!

 

700-750ish...Maybe a 725! LOL

BRP uses the same mill's for most of they're engines. Just different stroke, bores and valving. I don't think it would be an absolute re-engineered motor just a re-sized one of what they already have.

I just think the 800 and the 1000 are to close together as far as money is concerned and the 650 is an the other end of the spectrum. I'm thinking

Make the 1000XT say 13,500
Then the 725 like 11,500
Then the new 5-600 (smaller frame) like 9500. All in XT trim!

Then just knock off 2 grand for non XT machines! Simple!

Hell even offer the 400 in a 2wd version of the new smaller frame machine w/ like no electric accessories! Sell it for around 4-5 grand! People would buy it, Yamaha proved it! (Bruin,Big Bear,Kodiak,Grizzly) same with Suzuki (Ozark,Eiger,Vinson,King). Can Am could also make of new "series" of machines using the big bores platform but just install smaller engines and accessories

 

I have to agree that for the $300 dollar difference on an $11,000 machine I doubt there will be many takers for the 800r anymore. As for 2013 am I the only one who would like to shift their atv again why has everything gone to CV surely they can make a manual that will hold up maybe the whole drive train out of the spyder could work?

 

^^^ Yup your right your probably the only one that wants a manual atv..

For utility bikes like the outlander I don't see manual working but for something like the Rene maybe?

 

I dont know if I could go back to a manual now. I too used to the H/L selection.